Badges for peace officers only E-mail
Written by Mark Nichols   

In California, the state Senate has decided to prohibit the practice of handing out badges to people who never were, or no longer are, certified law enforcement officers. Citing alleged abuse of badges issued by former Orange County Sheriff Michael Carona, the state Senate rejected an effort to allow sheriffs and police chiefs to give badges to volunteers and retired law enforcement officers.

The controversy came to a head recently when a man claiming to be a police officer demanded access to a crime scene after displaying a badge given to him by a county sheriff.

California State Senator Dave Cox said it was necessary to clarify the law after the state attorney general issued an opinion on the matter. The A.G. said that state law prohibits anyone from giving a badge “that would deceive an ordinary, reasonable person into believing that it is authorized for use by a peace officer” or to anyone who is not a sworn peace officer.

Cox disagrees. He says badges should be allowed for volunteers who help law enforcement with search-and-rescue, code enforcement and other duties, as well as for retired police officers.

Other senators cited controversies involving alleged misuse of badges issued by former Sheriff Carona and other law enforcement leaders.

The legal opinion was issued after the Los Angeles Times reported that Riverside County Sheriff Bob Doyle and San Bernardino County Dist. Atty. Mike Ramos had issued badges to non-sworn personnel.

In addition, Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca had issued identification cards to people which had created an impression that they were legally empowered through that agency.

In other controversial incidents, former Sheriff Corona’s personal martial arts instructor was arrested on suspicion of flashing his badge and his gun at a group of golfers he thought were playing too slowly. “Badges should belong to law enforcement only,” Senator Gloria told the L.A. Times in an interview.

“The public should never have to guess who is the real or the not-real peace officer.”


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This is an outrage!
written by Fred Smerlis, June 25, 2008
I'm a bail bondsman that carries a badge as part of my job. Exactly how am I supposed to represent my authority without it?
get real
written by DEP, July 10, 2008
Your authority is represented by the bond papers that your client (ie criminal) signs before they are released from jail.
patrolman
written by Anthony Kayl, July 12, 2008
I would like to think that when i retire i can have a badge hung on my wall as a token of my appreciation for the job i have done. It woul dmean nothing to me if it didn't appear to be official? Take away a retires badge after spending thirty years on the job? I dont think so
wow
written by Sandrat, July 25, 2008
Glad I got my "honorably retired" badge when I did.
LEO
written by Thorn, July 29, 2008
I have lost track of the times badges were "flashed" at me(mostly to get out of a citation)and upon closer inspection of the badge they were found to be "retired/part-timer" or one of the "Special Agent/security/ joke badges that all the so-caled private detectives/bail bondsmen use which can be purchased at any uniform supply company. What I really like is all the police/sheriff volunteers that get badges and use them to intimidate others. I welcome laws which which restrict Law Enforcement badges to those currently working as a law enforcement officer. Give the others Id cards with NON-L.E. stamped in big bold letters across the background if they really need sometype of I.D from the department. P.I./security badges need to have their correct titles (no more "special agent" crap) displayed on the badge. As for retired L.E.O'S if they really need a badge give them one mounted to a plak which they cant place in their wallet and abuse as so many do.
RETIREMENT BADGE
written by JIM, September 12, 2008
COME ON YOU PEOPLE, A GUYS RETIRES FROM HIS DEPARTMENT AND HE/SHE IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE INTITLED TO A RETIREMENT BADGE IS UNBLIEVEABLE, THEY PUT THEIR ASS ON THE LINE DAY AFTER DAY WEARING A BADGE AND THEY RETIRE AND ARE DENIED A BADGE. THIS MAKES ME SAD THAT CITIZEN JERKS LIKE THESE PEOPLE CAN MAKE A DECISION SUCH AS THIS, YOU STINK.
POLICE OFFICER STATE OF OKLAHOMA
written by TODD YOUNG, December 14, 2008
Active officers only need to look for proper I.D. with the metal badge if it is valid your good and if it is not send them on their way. The problem is with us not being careful and checking it out first. To all Retired Peace Officers I commend you on you service and thankyou. As for Oklahoma carry your badge on you or on you wall you earned it.
Your Friend LT. TODD YOUNG Oklahoma State Police Officer
Retired Police Sergeant
written by Frank, February 05, 2009
What's next? Take away our right and earned privlege to carry concealed handguns too. Like everything else in our society, chip, chip chip away our freedom and GOD given rights, little pieces at a time.
Badges for peace officers only
written by Motorcop43, March 02, 2009
As for retired L.E.O'S if they really need a badge give them one mounted to a plak which they cant place in their wallet and abuse as so many do.


You've got to be kidding! I spent 27 years as a cop and upon retiring I was issued a RETIRED SERGEANT'S BADGE and an ID CARD THAT CLEARLY STATES "RETIRED SERGEANT" in BOLD PRINT! What is the harm in allowing a retired cop the right to carry a badge that proudly identifies him or herself as retired law enforcement?

LEO, you just don't get it, I don't NEED a badge, but I sure as hell earned one!
badges
written by w newsom, July 12, 2009
I TOOK A BULLET WHILE WEARING MY BADGE. I HAVE EARNED THE RIGHT TO KEEP IT. I PAYED FOR IT WITH BLOOD!!!
Retired Sergeant
written by tom maloney, August 12, 2009
I have a retirement badge after thirty one years; however yesterday it fell apart. Does this abuse by Sheriff Corona, who I believe had been indicited, mean that I am out of luck in getting a replacement?
Retired Sergeant
written by tom maloney, August 12, 2009
My retirement badge fell apart. Does this mean I can't replace it?
RETIRED SENIOR DA INVESTIGATOR
written by BILL FROGUE, August 21, 2009
I WAS A DEP SHERIFF FOR 22 YEARS AND A DA INVESTIGATOR FOR 6YEARS. I WORKED UNDECOVER FOR BOTH AGENCIES AND I WORKED HOMICIDE FOR BOTH AGENCIES.I PUT ALOT OF BAD PEOPLE AWAY FOR A LONG TIME.I LIVE IN THE SAME COMMUNITY WHERE I WORKED FOR 28 YEARS. I RETIRED IN 2000 AND NEVER BOTHERD TO GET A RETIREMENT BADGE. I HAD TO GO RECENTLY TO UPDATE MY RETIREMENT ID CARD AND DECIDED TO BUY A RETIREMENT BADGE. MIND YOU I AM AUTHORIZED TO CARRY A CONCEALED WEAPON. I WAS TOLD COULD NOT HAVE ONE THEY WWERE NOT AUTHORIZED.
NOW JUST SUPPOSE I ONSIGHT SOME CITEZEN GETTING HIS BRAINS BEATEN OUT OF HIM AND I ROLLUP TO ASSIST WITH GUN DRAWN IN A DARK ALLEY. GUESS WHAt PEOPLE, SOME ROOKIE IS VERY POSSIBLY GOING TO SHOOT ME. IF I HAD A PIECE OF TIN I COULD AT LEAST HAVE SOME MEANS OF IDENTIFICATION THAT A RESPONDING COPPER COULD SEE.
BESIDES I DESERVE TO CARRY A BADGE, I EARNED IT. LOTSA BLACK EYES AND BRUISES OVER THE YEARS.
BILL FROGUE
RE: BADGES
written by The Third Eye, December 09, 2009
Badges have been abused BIG TIME. It is unfortunate for the REAL COPS that they get screwed as a prelude to a munch of FAT CLOWNS at a fair walking around with their cotton candy and FLASHING BADGES to people.

Ha.... These FAT CLOWNS have the fantasy of thinking they are an agent of the Federal Alphabet Agency ( FBI, CIA , DEA). BUT THEY ARE NOT. !

And for those HONEST POLICE OFFICERS WHO WORKED THEIR BUTS OFF BEING HONEST AND NOT CORRUPT. I TAKE MY HAT OFF TO YOU. !!! GOD BLESS YOU GOOD COPS.
UP TO HERE
written by mac mccallister, December 14, 2009
active & retired officers,my family commends you all. regarding badge or no badge , ? sadly we have a disfunctional generation slowly whining their way straight to a liberal crisis !! punks,thugs,tiny little crips and bloods who think whats yours is theirs. citizens must take blame for this and reconize & assist in cleaning up their "OWN" neighborhoods..i am a licsened ,authorized weapons/firearms conceal carry citizen. as the retired officer mentioned above,true fact, man & wife pull into parking place at a diner. man opens car door for wife, a so called " SCARY GANG MEMBER" (lol) pulls a knife,demands purse and wallet.husband pulls out his legal glock 9mm ,holds suspect while wife calls police. dispatcher mistakenly reports man with gun holding up another man. police arive,perk had dropped knife behind parking barrier and screamed "THIS MAN IS GOING TO KILL ME OFFICER". the husband unfortunately slightly turned to explain to officer- "BANG" police kill innocent citizen and the tough guy runs for the hills..YES i carry a badge that states my legal authourity in clear bold letters " CONCEAL CARRY WEAPONS"..you must have licsence with badge on your person at all times..its not a badge for kid games,to impress you or your friends. its a badge that will "SAVE" my life,and if your lucky, maybe yours. sadly ,the main stream nobama purchased media hardly ever report citizens who defend their rights and legally put mr "tough guy" to sleep...thats not news,news is when criminals kill innocent people with a firearm and the liberal sobbing begins with every effort to take legal guns away forever..id rather be in company with a retired officer or a concealed carry while shopping anywhere than be in the company of a cell phone & a 5 minute wait(perhaps more) for the police to arrive...good luck ....you radical left are sure gonna need it..
Former Deputy Sheriff
written by Louis Mazzucca, July 16, 2010
All retired police and peace officers must be allowed to carry ID that they were on the job. After 9/11/01 president Bush said that he wanted all ex-police officers to be vigilant and to assist in keeping out country safe. (Bush passed the law that police officers to carry nation wide)
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written by keepdapeace, November 22, 2010
I don't know where this BS came from but retired LEO in California are still entitled to retired badges. Nearly every dept. Employeeing peace officers issues them or makes them available at cost.
Louisiana...
written by X-Five-O, December 21, 2010
Well here in Louisiana I know things are a lil different. However, the bottom line is it's all political. Chiefs and Sheriff's have been been handing out commisions in return for favors for years. All yalls comments have very good points. However, as a bail bonds men, if your in someones back yard at 3:am to serve a warrant you can't be pulling out papers. You need to be able to act fast and identify yourself. As for x-cops, they should be able to keep there badge. It all biols down to who has the badge, and how there useing it. Every real badge and/or id is clearly stated on it was it is and who its issued from. There is nothing to missunderstand. All the public has to do is simply read whats being shown to them. And if the holder is abusing there privledge let them be handled accordingly. Because lets face it, if they obtained it the right way or baught it at a dime store. It all comes down to the holder and/or how there useing it.
We did it to ourselves
written by Michael, August 16, 2011
The Sheriffs of each county as we all know are ELECTED political figures. As such they reward their personal friends and those that support their elections by giving badges ID and CCW. Try Orange County Sheriff and L A County Sheriff..can't tell you how many LASO badges are out there worn by ppl that have no clue about LE but supported the Sheriffs election. We should have controlled this mess at our end ..can't blame whats happening now..as far as real cops retiring they deserve ID badge and CCW if they served and retired honorably. The other scam out here is getting a disability pension..you get a disability pension becasue you can't be a police officer so what do these guy do go out the next day and become security , exec protection , private PI what a joke ..
bail bondsman
written by bail bondsman, April 30, 2012
Thanks for sharing. I have thought about becoming a police officer for a long time. I would like to work in a field that makes a difference in the world. I would like to know that my hard work is paying off. I would like to know more about being a bail bondsman.
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written by Suzy Frame, July 05, 2012
I agree with many of the people above me. If you don't have a badge, how are you supposed to represent your authority. Many of the people working with bail bonds need those badges so that the people in jail and the government know they have that authority. It doesn't really make sense. Do you know what they will do about that?
Retirement Badge
written by retired police officer, July 06, 2012
I am retired on an industrial disablity with rights of reinstatement my badge and ID was taken from me under the threat of being chrged with theif if I did not give them up. When I requested a retirement badge and ID it wa denied because the Chief determined that I was not in good standing with the department. I am filing a complaint with the EEOC I hope this will help. I am a POLICE OFFICER I earned that badge and ID. If you were never a police officer you would never understand why a badge and ID so important
Is it illegal in California?
written by Harrassed, July 07, 2012
I had someone who used my address(I don't know the person, and they certainly never lived at my house) on their application for Bail. Well, apparently they skipped out on their bond and now I have this lame, wanna-be cop "Bail Recover Agent" at my door, parked in front of my house etc... No matter how many times I tell this geek that the person of interest has no connection to my address, and has never lived here, he still sits in front of my house flashing his realistic looking "Bail Agent" badge. Is this badge issued by the state, or with any authority, or is it just a novelty item he uses to "trick" people? Maybe it is illegal? Also, why do all wanna-be Police Officers have this same cheesy personality flaw that you just can't quite put you finger on...you know what I am talking about?
Retired
written by C.L.(Chuck)Troupe, June 08, 2013
I am a 71-year old retiree now living in Arizona where our state government legislators, most of whom are not liberal gunophobes, have wisely recognized that the only valid "permit" for open carry (or even conceal and carry) is the Second Amendment. I know a lot of cops (the badge-heavy psychological cripple-types) are deathly opposed to this concept. They believe that "...only WE should be allowed to carry guns..." By the way, here in AZ we don't see a lot of these incidents of cops (the kind as just described) beating up women, and shooting unarmed citizens. I think our AZ gun laws tend to keep the grown-up schoolyard bullies OUT of our police agencies - either that or the mere thought of our private citizens "packing heat" proves that "an armed society is a polite society" - influencing even our law enforcement communities.
retired but still working with LEO, Fire and EMS
written by BJ, March 11, 2014
Our retired badges look exactly like the on-duty badge but the opposite face has the ID with RETIRED in red. It is very visible but at least you have the right to carry what took thirty-seven years of your life.

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