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12-01-06, 01:40 AM #1
Thought experiment: Where does authority come from?
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12-01-06, 01:58 AM #2
Authority comes from the people. People like you Ian. Thanks pal!
12-01-06, 02:05 AM #3
hmmm... aren't you the philosophizer tonight Ian? (by the way, I like my new word there... and I stole it from Dodgeball, as I'm sure you know)
I'll give it a shot here:
My authority (as a LEO) comes from state statute. State statute was written by elected legislators. These lawmakers were voted into office by the people, with an understanding that they would represent their interests in writing laws.
Therefore, my authority ultimately comes from the people that I have authority over (a catch-22 on the surface of things in some ways). Thus, in a roundabout manner, I serve the citizens collectively. This group of all citizens combined can be looked at as an entity upon itself. It is from this group that I receive my authority to enforce laws against the few who choose to violate the standards of conduct that were agreed upon within our society (and these standards were essentially set by the majority, as explained above).
12-01-06, 02:41 AM #4
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12-01-06, 05:51 AM #5The virtue of spirit has no need for thanks or approval. Only the certain conviction that what has been done is right. -Jor El, as played by Marlon Brando
12-01-06, 07:19 AM #6
It comes from within.......you either have it or you don't. It is just like respect....you either have it or you don't.Any Post I make is my opinion only!
I do not have the authority or the permission to post for my Sheriff's Office.
12-01-06, 11:19 AM #7"Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.
Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.
For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same;"I'm not a coward,
I've just never been tested
I'd like to think that if I was,
I would pass"
~Mighty Mighty Bosstones~
12-01-06, 11:24 AM #8
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12-01-06, 11:40 AM #10
Mine comes from the President of The United States.
We are the thin blue line
and all the money in the world.
And no you can't have any.
12-01-06, 12:29 PM #11
My "legal Authority" is given to me by the the govt of this country, through, the oath I have sworn to, also under the Criminal Code. It's very simple really, I devote 2 years of my life to Criminal Justice studies, I then applied to a Agency and gave up 3 months of my life to move 600km away from home for my basic training, then if I make it through that I come back to my job posting for anothe month of on the job training. Thats 4 continuose months without any paycheck. During my field training I sign my papers and take my oath. Then I have "authority". That being said authority is only as good as the govt or the agency that you work for backing your plate. With that authority comes a great responsibility-to maintain your honor,integrity and to be firm and fair with everyone. That may sound BS but it's true, if you treat the poor bum on the street as fair as the millionaire your job will be much easier in my opinion. There is reason lady justice is blindfolded, people need to remember justice should be fair and even for all people.Giggity giggity Goo!
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12-01-06, 12:48 PM #12Cheech Guest
Mine comes from Vicente Fox
12-01-06, 12:49 PM #13
I havent answered this because I have the feeling no matter how its answered it will be turned around to fit their agenda. I wont be baited and play into their hands like that. I do concure with several posts above, is all I will say."An Unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper
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12-01-06, 02:03 PM #14
My mum. Nough said.the sole advantage of power is that you can do more good.
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12-01-06, 03:11 PM #15For the morning will come. Brightly will it shine on the brave and true, kindly upon all who suffer for the cause, glorious upon the tombs of heroes. Thus will shine the dawn.
12-01-06, 08:40 PM #16
My wife. Just ask her."Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible actions." ~ George Washington.
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12-01-06, 09:16 PM #17
Authority on Earth ultimately belongs to (I know that's not the same as 'comes from') anyone who has the ability to use brute force to subject their will on others. Our Founding Fathers were traitors to the Crown, but they banded together and used force to send the King packing.
If you don't like our laws, you have two choices: Obey them, and work for political change (and thank God that you live in a country that gives you that option), or disobey them, and be imprisoned by authorities that have the ability to force their will on you. You can resist, and you may even take a few cops out if you're good. But you will ultimately lose because more people in this country will fight for its current government than against it.
12-02-06, 06:38 PM #18
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12-02-06, 09:58 PM #20
So, Ian, what is your take on where authority comes from?... since you raised the question originally.
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