national DL database

**jmoney3457** · 12-09-06, 06:11 PM

just have quick question all..do police (local,county,state) have access to like a "National driver license date base"..like I live in maine so if i got pulled over in say FL..could the florida cop pull up my maine drivers license/driving record?

**TheOldRhino** · 12-09-06, 06:53 PM

Yes. It's called NCIC- National Crimes and Information Computer.

**jmoney3457** · 12-09-06, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Rhino

Yes. It's called NCIC- National Crimes and Information Computer.

oh ok..isn't that same database also used for warrants and such?

**121Traffic** · 12-09-06, 07:07 PM

Rhino was close enough, but it's actually the National Crime Information Center. While it does have a database component, it's also a network of each state's Crime Information Center...ours is CCIC or Colorado CIC here. When we make a query, we are actually using our state's portal to NCIC (i.e. CCIC for me) in order to access the other state's DMV files. There is no central database of every state's records. That doesn't, however, make much of a functional difference. I type everything into one place, selectthe state, and the computer knows how to go about accessing other state's records.

Yes,NCIC is the same system also used for warrants, Attempts to Locate, stolen article entry, etc.

**Iron Man** · 12-09-06, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by 121Traffic

Rhino was close enough, but it's actually the National Crime Information Center. While it does have a database component, it's also a network of each state's Crime Information Center...ours is CCIC or Colorado CIC here. When we make a query, we are actually using our state's portal to NCIC (i.e. CCIC for me) in order to access the other state's DMV files. There is no central database of every state's records. That doesn't, however, make much of a functional difference. I type everything into one place, selectthe state, and the computer knows how to go about accessing other state's records.

Yes,NCIC is the same system also used for warrants, Attempts to Locate, stolen article entry, etc.

Yep.

In DC, we use WALES: Washington Area Law Enforcement System. In Maryland they use MILES :Maryland Interagency Law Enforcement System. Virginia uses VCIN,Virginia Criminal Information Network.

**jmoney3457** · 12-09-06, 08:32 PM

thank you all for the info..much appreciated, now I understand..each state has there own state database which in return can link to the national database, if need be, for info on out-of-state queries..ie warrants, DMV, stolen vehicles etc..but I also have question/statement bout this whole thing..can you imagine how they did it back in "The day" before all this technology came out? like in the 50-late 70's how did police have access to out of the state records even as simple as DMV?

**jmoney3457** · 12-10-06, 02:18 PM

like when they got pulled over before today's technology came out, how'd the LEO get the needed info that's so easily accessible today? esp. out of state info

**mavriktu** · 12-10-06, 02:41 PM

He didn't.PERIOD.That is how the Clyde Barrows,etc.were abel to stay out so long.All they had then were wanted bulletins,such as you see in the post office today.

Quote below.(OOPS)

like when they got pulled over before today's technology came out, how'd the LEO get the needed info that's so easily accessible today? esp. out of state info

**jmoney3457** · 12-10-06, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by mavriktu

He didn't.PERIOD.That is how the Clyde Barrows,etc.were abel to stay out so long.All they had then were wanted bulletins,such as you see in the post office today.

Quote below.(OOPS)

like when they got pulled over before today's technology came out, how'd the LEO get the needed info that's so easily accessible today? esp. out of state info

i'm sorry I didn't mean to upset you mavriktu

*gulp*

**chris2001** · 12-10-06, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by jmoney3457

i'm sorry I didn't mean to upset you mavriktu

*gulp*

You didn't upset him at all. He is correct though. During those times they just did not have the networking capabilities that we do now days.

**jmoney3457** · 12-11-06, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by chris2001

You didn't upset him at all. He is correct though. During those times they just did not have the networking capabilities that we do now days.

thanks chris

& yes the technology we have now was unthinkable back then

**Tennsix** · 12-17-06, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by jmoney3457

thanks chris

& yes the technology we have now was unthinkable back then

Once upon a time, photography was the best thing since the wheel. It was once a new and revolutionary technology. Outlaws were posing for photos not realizing they could be used on wanted posters. Before photos, LE often had no idea what a criminal looked like even if they had the wanted bulletin

I was attending an in-service class in the late 80’s when the instructor spoke of portable (not MDT’s) computers for use in the field. We thought it was a far-fetched notion and didn’t give it much consideration.

**mavriktu** · 12-17-06, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by jmoney3457

i'm sorry I didn't mean to upset you mavriktu

*gulp*

Sorry I didn't get back sooner.The caps were meant for emphasis not shouting.Understand I am puter illiterate for the most part and for me to go to italics etc ,it would take me all night for that one post which would realllllyyyyy interfere with my beer consumption.

**DaBigBR** · 12-17-06, 06:55 AM

The information on here is only semi-correct.

Out of state driver's information is provided by NLETS (National Law Enforcement Telecommunications System) which is completely separate from NCIC.

Messages are sent to the NLETS switch, which then routes the query to the proper state and returns the response. This is different than NCIC, where the data is actually stored on the NCIC computer system.

**NavLaw** · 12-17-06, 07:23 AM

I can recall the time before we had all this. We had zip for out of state, but in state we had a stack of microfish (almost like microfilm)
you had to put it in the viewer. This naturaly was done by the dispatcher, and at that time we had 1 only. To many traffic stops would get you a pissed off dispatcher.