life span of body armor
Ok so long story short I recently passed the state peace officer exam. That being said I have been working in the jail waiting on a deputy position to open up. Finally after 4 months of being certified I have been offered a position. My agency however does not supply body armor. Being that we have had more shootings than before and i am going to be on the streets soon I am going to have to buy my own armor. I have been looking at used armor on the web and was wanting some input/ info..... What is everyone's opinion on used armor and what is the average lifespan of bodyarmor? Best brands in terms of: comfort, dependability and personal opinions???
Without knowing exactly how old a vest may be, how much it was used and sweated in, what kind of care it received, how well it may or may NOT fit you (you should be measured for proper fit by someone who knows what they're doing), is it really worth your life to save a few bucks?
If I had to take out a loan for a new one, at least I would then know what I have.
(Remember also that most vests should be replaced at the five year mark, no matter how good they may still look.)
I would have to fully agree with cajunguy.
Originally Posted by cajunguy
Buying used body armor is a crapshoot. You don't know how old it is, how it was treated, and what happened to it.
There are things to save a buck on. Body armor ain't one of them. Get the best quality you can afford. Get it properly fitted. And WEAR it. Every time you hit the streets.
Manufacturers suggest a 5 year life span. It's probably still good after 5 years (which is why there are programs to donate used vests to cops in places overseas where they can't get new ones as easily)... but are you willing to bet your life on it?
thanks for the feedback on the used armor however this being my first armor purchase i am not sure about brand reputation, comfort and dependability.. I have heard good things about 5.11 and I have also heard good things about first choice...
Do not try and save pennies on body armor. DIESEL326, from this site just tried out several different body armors for patrol use at our agency. I would ask him for his opinion. I think he tested out four or five dfferent models from different companies. I will tell you that the extra money you spend on the the lighter ballistic panals is worth it.
Also, submit your info to Pudge so we can get you verified.
There are some things that are just worth the extra cost for quality.
Needed to add one for you :D
Originally Posted by Donut Aficionado
I recently bought my own vest at http://body-armor.com/ and love it. Great customer service too!
I agree w/ all who responded, except caveman. Since I'm a girl I have a dif of opinion on the call girl thing, but I'd personally add wine to the list. And maybe a great looking studmuffinish pool boy-toy to rub suntan oil on me wearing a speedo, and he belongs wearing a speedo! lol
vest: Rookie, I assume youre a guy. Vests are difficult enough to get comfortable, w/o hassling w/ somebody's rejects. It's better than nothing I suppose, until you can save up for one, but I recommend ccarding it. As everyone said, it's not worth your life. Our dept replaces ours every 5 years. and beign a girlie girl, it's hard enough to get them to fit right, even from scratch. lol such problems us girls have in this job...
Buy a new one and be done with it. You will get it sized right and you know it will be good for the next 5-7 yrs. Plus you dont have some other persons sweat soaked into it
thats so totally gross... altho they can be washed.. thank goodness.
First of all, n30 I'm hoping (visualizing) that avatar is a self-portrait. Very nice.
Secondly, you may consider adding a level of puncture protection as well if you're buying your own. When I worked at a Sheriff's Office I offered to pay the difference if they would buy me a dual-protection vest. Of course, they said sure....and proceeded to just buy me a level IIa vest. It's something to consider. Knives are more common anyway (maybe not in TX).
UUUMMM you forgot donuts! Or does that go without saying:bowl:
Originally Posted by Donut Aficionado
Well put! I've come up with a growing list of items that I won't try to save a buck on:
Originally Posted by Jks9199
1) Duty weapons
2) Body armor
3) climbing rope
5) vehicle airbags
... and so on.
Make sure you include shoes.
Originally Posted by Coloradocop
Nothing makes a day go by slower than uncomfortable, crappy shoes or boots!
These guys are right! My old department changes out all issued armor after three years. Pricey but very much worth it.
There are a lotta things that could go on that list and guns and armor are right at the top.
P.S. Stay away from used women too.
You obviously have heard alot so far, but do yourself, your family, your co-workers a favor. Dont be cheap when it comes to your life. I personally think it depends on how much sweat the armor comes incontact with, how often its maintained ect... You will find in the states that have a higher heat index, the vests more than likely expire quicker.
Here in ohio, its really only hot pre say for 3 or 4 months out of the year.
I've had my Second Chance Ultima threat level 3 for about 6 years now. Am i do for another vest, yes, am i going to get a brand new one, you betcha ass i am. I have a beautiful family at home, and i dont want a piece of armor decideing if i get to come home or not.
The vest that i wear, is very comfortable, very light. If i wear a uniform, or am in a cruiser for any reason, i have it on.
I had my life threatened a few years ago, by some big time drug dealers. I wore that vest everyday, even to the store. Thats how thin it is.
Good Luck on your choice!