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    Quote Originally Posted by bayern View Post
    Kinda - BUT.....I have known two officers personally who 1. A Deputy Sheriff working traffic did in fact write his mother a speeding ticket; and 2. A City officer wrote his wife an inspection violation and she appeared in court. He attempted to dismiss the charge, but his wife insisted to be heard; she pled not guilty and told the ]Judge the car was registered in her husband name(the cop). The Judge fined the Cop. I was in court that day and it (the court room) was in an uproar. Even the Judge was laughing.

    Really though, Va State Police has a history of writing other officers from various agencies speeding tickets, while the offender was on duty in marked cars. I think its a No Tolerance police they have. You call it in, you write it. No exceptions. Just what I read on other sites.
    A deputy and a city officer are not Virginia State Troopers. Every agency, including yours, has ding dongs. I've heard these types of stories all over the country and all kinds of agencies.

    VSP does not have a no tolerance policy with no exceptions. I can speak on that from personal experience. Do they have clowns there? Sure. Should they have given the folks going to and from Katrina wreckage a hard time? Nope. You can thank a couple hard ass supervisors for that nonsense I'm sure.

    Whenever some cop somewhere does something stupid:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331129,00.html

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,2253865.story

    We all ask the public to not judge us all by the actions of individual stupid and criminal officers. Yet here we are judging an entire agency of troopers based on the actions of a few knuckleheads.

    I work with VSP troopers and call a few friends. I have even been pulled over by troopers. I have never had anything but professional and positive contacts with them. I have never seen any "no tolerance" or "you call it you write it" policies or even heard of that. The majority of troopers there do not deserve to be judged by the actions of a couple robots who work there.
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    I agree. I was very impressed with the one Virginia State Trooper I had the good fortune to come in contact with. The young man was a credit to the law enforcement profession.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bayern View Post
    Kinda - BUT.....I have known two officers personally who 1. A Deputy Sheriff working traffic did in fact write his mother a speeding ticket; and 2. A City officer wrote his wife an inspection violation and she appeared in court. He attempted to dismiss the charge, but his wife insisted to be heard; she pled not guilty and told the ]Judge the car was registered in her husband name(the cop). The Judge fined the Cop. I was in court that day and it (the court room) was in an uproar. Even the Judge was laughing.

    Really though, Va State Police has a history of writing other officers from various agencies speeding tickets, while the offender was on duty in marked cars. I think its a No Tolerance police they have. You call it in, you write it. No exceptions. Just what I read on other sites.
    VA State PD, weren't they the ones who stopped a convoy of Marked NYPD Emergency Vehicles heading down to assist the PD in New Orleans after Katrina. Most of the other states escorted the convoy thru their states, VA made them turn their lights off and go speed limit.

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    Not exactly. The pictures that got paired with that story did show VSP -- but they didn't go with the incident. The pics of VSP with the cars were taken when the convoy was stopped on their own; I think they had a mechanical issue. The LEOs who stopped one group traveling NORTH after Katrina were local deputies (along the I-81 corridor, as I recall). If you do some searching here on O/R, you can probably find the details.

    VSP does have a couple of jerks who have a reputation for going out of their way to write cops -- and bragging about it. These idiots work in heavy travel areas, so they've had a chance to make lots of "special friends" and the internet has helped spread rumors. Like others have said -- every agency has a few idiots with no idea of discretion; VSP is no different. It's just gotten more undeserved bad press.

    I've been stopped by troopers more than once -- and never been given cause to be unhappy with the outcome. And a couple have, so far as they can without putting their job on the line, worked with me on a few friends/family that got tickets, too. (Their agency has become VERY strict on what they can do to work with you...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
    Dude, look around. There are some great places to be a cop in this state.

    Richmond, Henrico, Chesterfield.

    Norfolk, Newport News, Virginia Beach, Hampton, Suffolk, Chesapeake

    Roanoke City, Roanoke County, Salem City, Blacksburg, Radford, VA Tech

    There's a lot more but those are all I've heard good things about at one time or another. Lots of opportunities.

    You need to get a decent job and hold it. Job hopping looks irresponsible. If you don't have military or college, start working on college.

    Get a police officer examination study guide at the bookstore and study it.

    Good luck.
    Sorry that I didn't explain my experiences with my application processes better. I haven't failed any of my exams as of yet. My work experience is pretty good I guess. I have worked at my current place of employment for about a year, but before that I worked at the same job for 5 years. I know that's not very long, but its a start, right?. I do want to start on some college soon, your definatly right about that. I live pretty much on the Prince William, Fairfax county line, about 5 miles further south of woodbridge. I'm not sure that I could even afford to go to work in Roanoke, or Blacksburg without a take-home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jks9199 View Post
    Hand it in personally. Make the personal connection with some of them. Ask to talk to someone 'cause you're interested. It'll help move you from "Applicant #1234" to "Rob" -- which might help you get through the process. It won't make up for any shortcomings -- but it might make the difference when it's time to sort all the "best qualified" applicants to fit the number of academy slots.

    And don't give up. No matter how tight budgets get, there'll always be some hiring, as some folks will retire or leave agencies for whatever reason. (We just had someone leave unexpectedly, for example... and a month ago, I wouldn't have guessed we'd have that particular opening.) If your application isn't on file, you've got no chance.
    Thanks for the advice, i'm going to hand the app in myself tommorow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    I went through the hiring process with VSP in my senior year in college (I was 21-22). I made it passed the initial application screening, the physical agility test, and the written test. I was rejected after the oral board interview. It was great experience. There interview questions had nothing directly to do with law enforcement, which at the time completely through me off.

    They are VERY strict. They made all of us testing that day line up and march double time to the track as they yelled at us...lol.

    When I applied there were approximately 2,000 people applying for one Trooper position.


    Holy hell!!!

    My buddy made it through about two years ago. He got his academy start date, but then decided to move to Colorado and became a truck driver with his uncle

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob84 View Post
    I'm not sure that I could even afford to go to work in Roanoke, or Blacksburg without a take-home.
    The cost of living is a whole lot lower here than where you're at. You can live a lot better with less here.

    There's a member here that moved from your area to the SW Virginia area. He can give you better particulars.

    Edit to add: Blacksburg pays very well.

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    You gotta go where the jobs are. If it's not working up there you may have to move or find a different career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jks9199 View Post
    Not exactly. The pictures that got paired with that story did show VSP -- but they didn't go with the incident. The pics of VSP with the cars were taken when the convoy was stopped on their own; I think they had a mechanical issue. The LEOs who stopped one group traveling NORTH after Katrina were local deputies (along the I-81 corridor, as I recall). If you do some searching here on O/R, you can probably find the details.

    VSP does have a couple of jerks who have a reputation for going out of their way to write cops -- and bragging about it. These idiots work in heavy travel areas, so they've had a chance to make lots of "special friends" and the internet has helped spread rumors. Like others have said -- every agency has a few idiots with no idea of discretion; VSP is no different. It's just gotten more undeserved bad press.

    I've been stopped by troopers more than once -- and never been given cause to be unhappy with the outcome. And a couple have, so far as they can without putting their job on the line, worked with me on a few friends/family that got tickets, too. (Their agency has become VERY strict on what they can do to work with you...)
    My mistake, got to take stories with a grain of salt, unless it was a first hand encounter.

    we have had a share of jerks, got to try to take care of them in the locker room, even that does not work for some. We had a guy who would write anybody, including his own mother. Not sure what type of self worth he got out of doing that, he was pretty much alienated from the rest of the command.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darin View Post
    The cost of living is a whole lot lower here than where you're at. You can live a lot better with less here.

    There's a member here that moved from your area to the SW Virginia area. He can give you better particulars.

    Edit to add: Blacksburg pays very well.
    Its amazing how much cheaper everything gets if you go just 5 more miles further south of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
    You gotta go where the jobs are. If it's not working up there you may have to move or find a different career.
    excellent point, Ive applied as far south as spotsylvania. I just might have to consider moving here pretty shortly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob84 View Post
    excellent point, Ive applied as far south as spotsylvania. I just might have to consider moving here pretty shortly.
    Test around the state and go where the job hires you. Good luck!
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    VA SP is a decent organization. As stated though, they are in budget problems and won't be hiring much. Other downsides are that the pay is low, they WILL put you where they want you, not where you want, and at times you may be the only trooper covering 3 counties, especially on midnights.

    If you want a PD that's hiring in VA, look at my old dept Chesterfield County PD. The pay isn't great but the new chief is making it better. I loved working there and if I could afford to raise a family there, I'd have stayed. Take home car, decent equipment, good police experience, and a great bunch of officers. It's a great place to get your foot in the door. Not the best to make a career out of, but like I said, the new chief is trying to make it better.

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