Loaded Chamber

[countybear]

Does your sgt have a round in the chamber?

I'd ask him if he just carries one round in his top pocket...

[bayern]

There is a discussion between me and my Sgt, it concerns the possibility that there are municipal agancies in the United States that prohibit an officer from chambering a round in his/her weapon until it is drawn for the purpose of shooting someone.

I bet him that aside from a select few Dept. of the Army posts that no civilian agency has this rule.

Can anybody tell me if they know of any agency that has an empty chamber policy?

Also, any Canadian Police, do you chamber or not, he says most Canadian Police are empty chamber too, citing the RCMP's.

Interesting. AR 190-14 only states that the issuance of ammo implies that the weapon is loaded. What does loaded mean? Magazine in the weapon only, or round jacked in. No mention. I know for a fact that weapons on military bases (except for revolvers) are never "loaded" in our meaning except on the ranges or when prepared to fire. I guess local policy really dictates on this question.

2–2. Authority to carry firearms

a.

Due to the serious responsibility imposed on persons authorized

to bear or use firearms, such persons must be selected with
care.

b.

Authorization to carry a firearm includes the authority to permit

or require the firearm to be loaded. Unless otherwise specified
by local policy, authority to carry a loaded firearm will be implied
by issuance of ammunition with the firearm.

Perhaps someone knows some MPs or whatever, and get their take on this. .

[TXCharlie]

He says its for liability reasons, its an extra step to make sure you intend to shoot the bad guy...

And make sure the bad guy has time to shoot you... It's only fair that you give them a sporting chance

I wonder if just using the manual safety on something like the XDm would satisfy them? It would be a simple matter to flick on the safety right before inspection I hate guns with safetys, though - They're also dangerous, especially on something like that special XDm model, which doesn't need it. Whenever I pull the trigger and nothing happens, I always think it malfunctioned since I so rarely use one.

[Wolven]

Don't know of any departments that dont chamber a round...seems akin to suicide to me if they didnt

[MacLean]

I can tell you the RCMP do not, in fact, carry on an empty chamber. That's BS.

[jcsdscott]

If anyone did that around here, I'm sure they would be corrected, and if they failed to correct, summarily avoided. Of course, we still have jailers that come to work without the now department issued Glock 22 so, go figure.

[Radar]

If you ever hear me refer to security guards and security companies with a touch of disdain it's from personal bad experiences. The security company I work for part time has a no live round policy. I've been reprimanded twice during spot checks when they checked my uniform and my firearm and discovered I have one in the chamber. Nevermind the fact that I'm a cop and have above average intelligence compared to the rest of the dimwits they have working here. The rules are the rules and are there for a reason I keep being reminded. They created that policy and the policy of it being a terminatable offense to bring a firearm into the security administrative offices and training room after a dimwit shot himself in the foot trying to show another employee his new firearm.

"Punish the group for the stupidity of one".

[Lawful Larry]

I live in the Tidewater area of Virginia and through out this area thee is no department or shreiff's office that has a policy such as that.

As a side note, a policy such as the one you mention could possibly get someone killed!!!

[Lawful Larry]

If anyone did that around here, I'm sure they would be corrected, and if they failed to correct, summarily avoided. Of course, we still have jailers that come to work without the now department issued Glock 22 so, go figure.

If they are sworn officers, I would call them idiots. If not, here in Virigina regional jails are manned with COs and they are not sworn officers. As such they are not allowed to carry unless they are transproting a prisoner.

[NavyDavy]

As a Reserve Deputy Sheriff: round chambered
For my federal contract security job: round chambered
For my Air National Guard contract security job: round chambered

I wouldn't work anywhere that wouldn't let me carry one in the pipe.