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    Off duty, there aren't many circumstances where I would want to carry openly. If the majority of people went about armed, then I would revise that opinion.

    That said, I support your right to do so.

    The unloaded requirement is disturbingly stupid.

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    I guess I'm the odd guy out. I would not support open carry regardless. If you have a CWP, then by all means carry your weapon, but keep it concealed. Regardless of the state you are in, in my opinion, only LE should be allowed to have their weapon in plain view, and only if in uniform or with your badge on your belt. The laws have too many loopholes that allow bad people to obtain firearms and permits. I personally do not want to walk around like I'm in the wild west. As uniformed officers, we are walking targets. Everyone knows who we are, but we don't know who the bad guys are. When I approach someone, be it during a traffic stop, or any other call for service, the first thing I do is ask the subject if they have any weapons on them that could hurt me. If they say no, and a pat down is in order, I'd better not find anything or you're going to the ground hard. If you answer yes, then I'll ask you to keep your hands in sight, and very slowly with two fingers on one hand produce your DL and CWP. I do not want you to touch the weapon, show me the weapon, or become in any position to use the weapon on myself, or anyone else. If you are legal, and my business with you is over, you are free to go, with your concealed weapon still concealed, and you are free to defend yourself if the threat becomes real. I do agree that it's just plain stupid to walk around with an empty weapon. That to me is trouble waiting to happen. I'm sure there plenty of other officers and non-LE's that disagree, as stated in the previous posts, but this is just my personal opinion.
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    So far you can still leave California. When the State confiscates all the brick, mortar, barbed wire, and sends the Job Corps to the state lines, you should really consider moving to ahhh....Arizona. We are full up here right now.

    Open carry brings ordinary people into contact with some cops who are not too informed about good people owning firearms. The contact is often initiated by the stupid who understand nothing but what they saw on TV and call 911 about "a man with a gun."
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    I assume everyone is armed. I always will be, and I don't think I'm entitled to any special consideration.

    I find open carry to be dubious tactically, but again - it's your right to do it.
    I'm your huckleberry...

    Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentus telum est!

    You can be the weapon, and the gun in your hand is a tool - or the gun is a weapon and you are the tool.


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    RETIRED

    THANK GOD FOR HR.218...BY THE WAY ARE U AWARE FOP IS COMING OUT WITH STATE ISSUED LIC.PLATES

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    I don't want a license plate that advertises I'm a cop. Just paint a bulls eye on my car, my family, and my back.
    Pleasing nobody, one person at a time.

    That which does not kill me, better start fucking running.

    If I lived every day like it was my last, the body count would be staggering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serpico155 View Post
    THANK GOD FOR HR.218...BY THE WAY ARE U AWARE FOP IS COMING OUT WITH STATE ISSUED LIC.PLATES

    We've had those in AL for years. To echo what Xiphos said, no thanks.

    Meanwhile, fishing in Russia:

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    Proud to advertise.....

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    Scared to advertise.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisipso View Post
    Proud to advertise.....

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    Cops are the only ones facing random targeting for murder simply because of their profession. Maybe if society took our safety and security more seriously it wouldn't be an issue.
    Pleasing nobody, one person at a time.

    That which does not kill me, better start fucking running.

    If I lived every day like it was my last, the body count would be staggering.

    I intend to go in harm's way. -John Paul Jones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
    Cops are the only ones facing random targeting for murder simply because of their profession. Maybe if society took our safety and security more seriously it wouldn't be an issue.
    Yep.
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    HEN U GET MY AGE AND RETIRED ..IM NOT WORRIED ABOU THE LIC. PATES ..THERE ONLY GONNA BE ON ONE CAR ..A MERCEDES SLK 230 ROADSTER CONV. AS IT IS NOW IM BEING FOLLOWED BY EVERY YOUNG NEWBE OFFICER TO SEE IF IM SPEEDING WHICH IM NOT ...

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    My retirement plan is to be armed and not tell anyone.

    When I get thrown to the ground by the in-service generation for being armed while not committing any other crime, I plan to hire excellent lawyers to supplement my retirement income.

    I predict huge financial success.
    I'm your huckleberry...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacLean View Post
    My retirement plan is to be armed and not tell anyone.

    When I get thrown to the ground by the in-service generation for being armed while not committing any other crime, I plan to hire excellent lawyers to supplement my retirement income.

    I predict huge financial success.
    Hopefully for the 2nd Amendment, by the time you are eligible to retire this nonsense will be fixed and cops won't react that way.

    Otherwise, good plan.
    Pleasing nobody, one person at a time.

    That which does not kill me, better start fucking running.

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    My retirement plan is to sit on my porch with a shotgun and yell "get off my lawn"
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    AS A O'LE SARGENT ONCE TO ME YEARS AGO ..CHARLEY SLOW DOWN "YOUR ONE WRONG DECISON AWAY FROM LOOSING ...YOUR HOUSE ..YOUR JOB ...OR YOUR LIFE"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgg View Post
    My retirement plan is to sit on my porch with a shotgun and yell "get off my lawn"
    LMFAO!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
    Cops are the only ones facing random targeting for murder simply because of their profession. Maybe if society took our safety and security more seriously it wouldn't be an issue.
    How would society take your safety and security more seriously? What should we (law abiding civilians) do to aid you in your protection? Keep in mind this is not a snide comment, but a real question. Society views you (police) as the protectors, not those in need of protection
    What part of "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" don't you understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdaddy1 View Post
    How would society take your safety and security more seriously? What should we (law abiding civilians) do to aid you in your protection? Keep in mind this is not a snide comment, but a real question. Society views you (police) as the protectors, not those in need of protection

    In my state's case, when the public is sitting on a Grand Jury handing down indictments. They can demand that the DA pursue the highest charges possible and set the highest bonds possible when the cases involve murders and assualts on officers. They can do the same in cases involving fleeing from the police and filing false BS charges against officers.

    Meanwhile, fishing in Russia:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkzV5AIK8iM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Five-0 View Post
    In my state's case, when the public is sitting on a Grand Jury handing down indictments. They can demand that the DA pursue the highest charges possible and set the highest bonds possible when the cases involve murders and assualts on officers. They can do the same in cases involving fleeing from the police and filing false BS charges against officers.
    This. So many of our slain officers are killed by people who have murdered before, or assaulted cops before.
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