Promotions and/or special assignments.
How does your Department handle promotions and/or special assignments? Does your department test for Rank promotions or assignments like Narcotics, Investigations, K9, SRT, etc? Or do they simply choose based on other factors like seniority, performance, or the buddy system?
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Promotions and/or Special Assignments.
In Minnesota, it is not unusual to have a panel of three people for the interview board and at least one might be an officer from another law enforcement agency. It would not be unusual to have a civilian on that board as well. In fact, a mix that seems to be fairly common around here could be three member panel consisting of:
Originally Posted by creolecop
-Higher ranking officer at your own agency.
-Ranking officer from another agency.
I suspect that the panels vary quite a bit around the country. On of the neatest systems I have seen is a four person panel, BUT, instead of 4 on 1, it was 1 on 1 for about 30 minutes each. I think that works well because each person can get a chance to ask what they want of the candidate. I imagine there are even other ways of doing the oral interview process besides what has been discussed so far.
Just out of curiosity, do people here generally find that there is enough opportunity for advancement at their agencies right now or has the current economy left a whole bunch of us in the position that many agencies are just stagnant? Places where about all that can be done is the basics. Some folks on patrol, some investigators, and not much movement because everyone is afraid to retire due to the economy.
Promotions and/or Special Assignments
I must admit that is a pretty common sentiment in a lot of places. I am retired from sworn work now, so I don't "have a dog in the fight." I have worked for more than one agency over the years and interacted with folks from a number of different agencies. It does seem, at least from my perspective, that the whole promotional process is one of the more controversial and emotionally upsetting things in police work.
Originally Posted by Jks9199
I have certainly heard from people in other agencies that some people that should be promoted ate not promoted and, conversely, some people are promoted that should not be. I have heard of people with just barely meet the absolute minimum requirements getting promoted at their earliest opportunity and others with great qualifications like college degrees, lots of great training, and significant relevant experience getting passed over.
I have also found it interesting when some agencies go to great lengths to develop a promotional process, perhaps an in basket assessment center, panel interview, etc. Then the results come down and they reach down, passing by the # 1 and # 2 candidate, and promoting # 3. I find that kind of interesting because if they have so much faith in the system, why wouldn't they promote the person that scored the highest after all that?
Does anybody have a feel if this is the same anywhere? For example, in other areas of government, say fire service, public works, etc. is it the same? I have also wondered, too, if say nursing or teaching have similar issues? I am inclined to think that both education and nursing place a greater emphasis on advanced education, but then again I could be way off base here.
I think it will be interesting in a few more years to see what develops. Maybe in the future we will look back at this time frame and laugh at the methods we used for selecting people for promotions and/or special assignments. On the other hand, maybe nothing will change at all.
I do think that there are places right now that are more fair in this process than others. The ones that I Admire are the ones that tell the officers up front ahead of time what is necessary to get promoted. I have heard of Career Development programs that tell officers right up front that to get to sergeant you must have:
- X Number Of Years Experience With This Agency
- Good To Excellent Performance Appraisals (Reviews)
- Bachelors Degree
Note, I am not necessarily saying these should be the precise requirements, rather I am saying that the factors should be know well ahead of time, they should be reasonable, and achievable. I don't think someone who just completed their one year probation should be able to get promoted. (Yes, I DO know of agencies where this has happened and I don't mean 5 officer departments, either.)
I have a sneaking suspicion that there others here that have seen some similar disparities. Places where the Sheriff's nephew gets hired and, gee, as soon as he is off probation he is on days with stripes! Or other places where the chief's son gets hired as a CSO. Magically, as soon as he is eligible, he gets promoted to sworn officer, and just as soon he is eligible to apply for sergeants there is an opening and, what a shock, he gets promoted!
Okay, I am getting back down from my soapbox now. Let's hear it. What are your best stories about people promoted that passed over more qualified officers, or ones that are constantly passed over despite excellent qualifications