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    Excuse me, officer!

    While I was in a major train station not long ago, a situation unfolded which resulted in two transit police officers approaching and questioning someone. Although it took place literally a few feet away from me, even if I'd been sitting across the room I would have been able to determine that the officers were not simply having a friendly chat.

    In the midst of this a woman approached one of the officers, waved her Amtrak ticket at him and asked him about her train. Mind you, this took place perhaps a dozen feet away from the Amtrak counter and even closer to the station's information desk. I don't know if the woman was oblivious to what was happening or if she was just stupid, but I couldn't believe that she would interrupt a police officer like that. Even if he hadn't been in the middle of something, why she would ask him about the train schedule in the first place is beyond me.

    Do people often approach you like that, when you're in the middle of questioning someone, etc.? What do you say or do?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post
    While I was in a major train station not long ago, a situation unfolded which resulted in two transit police officers approaching and questioning someone. Although it took place literally a few feet away from me, even if I'd been sitting across the room I would have been able to determine that the officers were not simply having a friendly chat.

    In the midst of this a woman approached one of the officers, waved her Amtrak ticket at him and asked him about her train. Mind you, this took place perhaps a dozen feet away from the Amtrak counter and even closer to the station's information desk. I don't know if the woman was oblivious to what was happening or if she was just stupid, but I couldn't believe that she would interrupt a police officer like that. Even if he hadn't been in the middle of something, why she would ask him about the train schedule in the first place is beyond me.

    Do people often approach you like that, when you're in the middle of questioning someone, etc.? What do you say or do?
    Doesn't suprise me a bit. Stopping in the middle of traffic being directed at a busy intersection, pulling up at a crash scene, walking up while handling a call, or yelling a question while you're dealing with a high risk stop with weapon unholstered, I've seen it happen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pudge View Post
    Doesn't suprise me a bit. Stopping in the middle of traffic being directed at a busy intersection, pulling up at a crash scene, walking up while handling a call, or yelling a question while you're dealing with a high risk stop with weapon unholstered, I've seen it happen.


    How they are handled depends on what I'm dealing with at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pudge View Post
    How they are handled depends on what I'm dealing with at the time.
    This. You can tell that the type of person that does this has such an important question that they would never think to ask a cop unless they see one. I'm all for small talk and the like when grabbing a cup of coffee at the shop and rob, but on a traffic stop ect it is a safety hazard for them and me. The absolute worst was being outside a bank during "a situation", hunkered down WITH MY AR15 OUT, and then asked if the bank was open. (all while standing in front of the main door)


    Bottom line is I've been on the phone with members here. When one of us has to go we have to go. It is understood. It is rude to interrupt an ongoing conversation, it is down right dangerous to insert yourself when any first responder is working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Five-0 View Post
    Bottom line is I've been on the phone with members here. When one of us has to go we have to go. It is understood. It is rude to interrupt an ongoing conversation, it is down right dangerous to insert yourself when any first responder is working.
    Yep. Hearing, "Hey man...gotta go" and a click is pretty much universal. It's also nothing for the phone to ring 3 hours later and hear "Anyhow...I was saying" as soon as you answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Five-0 View Post
    The absolute worst was being outside a bank during "a situation", hunkered down WITH MY AR15 OUT, and then asked if the bank was open. (all while standing in front of the main door)


    What did you answer?

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    Not surprising at all. I actually had a woman approach me from behind while I was on a felony traffic stop with the suspects in the vehicle ( who were wanted in an armed robbery by the way) being held at gunpoint by myself and another officer awaiting more LEOs to get to the scene. She wanted to know how much longer we were going to have the road blocked because she had to get to work. Keep in mind there were about five intersections she could have turned at in the direction she came from and gone around where we were on this particular street. Never under estimate the stupidity of the public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    She wanted to know how much longer we were going to have the road blocked because she had to get to work.
    You could have told her to ask the suspects, since the outcome of the stop would depend on what they did....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    You could have told her to ask the suspects, since the outcome of the stop would depend on what they did....

    She was very upset because I didn't take the time to give her directions around the scene. I did tell her how she could get to the jail quick , fast and in a hurry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post
    While I was in a major train station not long ago, a situation unfolded which resulted in two transit police officers approaching and questioning someone. Although it took place literally a few feet away from me, even if I'd been sitting across the room I would have been able to determine that the officers were not simply having a friendly chat.

    In the midst of this a woman approached one of the officers, waved her Amtrak ticket at him and asked him about her train. Mind you, this took place perhaps a dozen feet away from the Amtrak counter and even closer to the station's information desk. I don't know if the woman was oblivious to what was happening or if she was just stupid, but I couldn't believe that she would interrupt a police officer like that. Even if he hadn't been in the middle of something, why she would ask him about the train schedule in the first place is beyond me.

    Do people often approach you like that, when you're in the middle of questioning someone, etc.? What do you say or do?
    Yes.

    Depending on the situation, anything from a fairly polite "I'll be with you in a minute" through "GET THE FUCK OUT MY WAY!" to arrest for obstruction.

    People are stupid. I know a guy who was on a felony stop, crouched behind a cruiser, gun out -- and had some lost dumbass walk up and ask for directions. I've had people literally drive through traffic stops. (It's only dumb luck that they haven't driven through a felony stop.) People simply don't realize that their little situation sin't the only thing going on. It's really no different from the guy who walks past everyone waiting in line to demand service...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pudge View Post
    Yep. Hearing, "Hey man...gotta go" and a click is pretty much universal. It's also nothing for the phone to ring 3 hours later and hear "Anyhow...I was saying" as soon as you answer.
    Or to be sitting, talking with someone and suddenly see their gaze kind of go a little off for a beat, answer up the radio as they stand up and head out 'cause they just got a call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jks9199 View Post
    Or to be sitting, talking with someone and suddenly see their gaze kind of go a little off for a beat, answer up the radio as they stand up and head out 'cause they just got a call.

    Yep. My family has even picked up on the look and realizes when my earpiece has taken over the conversation. My youngest will cut off her older siblings with "daddy has a call, tell him later".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post


    What did you answer?
    Last edited by Five-0; 11-23-11 at 09:02 PM.

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    All the frickin' time. Of course, I think this is universal, and not just to LEO's. I've seen it happen with firemen, medics, and the gas station attendant. I think they're just rude people who don't have any manners and their parents never taught them not to interrupt when someone is talking.
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    I've been known to tell some of these jerks to "Don't interrupt while the grownups are talking."

    Surprised I haven't gotten nasty-grams a couple of times.


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    I don't think courtesy or professionalism are relevant when something like this happens, AND someone's personal safety (mine, co-workers, witnesses, etc) are of concern.

    When that happens, I normally drop some four letter words and yell. It gets the point across and makes me feel a little better, complaints be damned.
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    I never cease to be amazed at the stupidity of some people, and the restraint that you guys must use in those situations is admirable.

    In this situation, the officer just said, "Information is over there," and the woman wandered off.




 

 
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