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    I have a question about what occurs after a shooting

    I would like to know what happens after a police shooting. I am working on a story where a police officer, is at a fast food restaurant, when a suspect comes into the place intent on robbing it when he sees that a police officer is Code 7. He is carrying a sword and walks in her direction. He looks high and refuses to drop the weapon. She fires the taser at him which has no effect. and she winds up shooting him in self sefense. Thank you for your help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Policefan1978 View Post
    I would like to know what happens after a police shooting. I am working on a story where a police officer, is at a fast food restaurant, when a suspect comes into the place intent on robbing it when he sees that a police officer is Code 7. He is carrying a sword and walks in her direction. He looks high and refuses to drop the weapon. She fires the taser at him which has no effect. and she winds up shooting him in self sefense. Thank you for your help.
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    First off, forget the TASER stuff. Use of Force is not a continuum where all levels of force must be applied prior to deadly force. Someone coming at me with a sword and refusing to stop is a deadly force encounter. Without getting too much into tactics, the TASER has no appreciable use here, unless there is more than one officer and one of them has the responsibility of providing lethal cover. Even that's a stretch with a armed suspect approaching me.

    As for the post-shoot, that varies widely depending on jurisdiction. It would be handled like any other homicide-by-gun scene. CSIs, witness statement collection, checking video recordings, etc. In my jurisdiction, we have a county-wide critical incident team...referred to as the "shoot" team. It's detectives from all of the county jurisdictions, investigators with the DA's office, etc. We can expect to have our weapon taken from us, our own IA investigators to be sniffing around, and us to be shuttled back to headquarters. I would promptly be making a call to a PBA/FOP/union rep and/or a lawyer.
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    I agree with getting rid of the Taser. If I see someone coming after me with a sword, they're going to meet the business end of a .40.
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    Another suggestion... Unless you really know the codes & signals used by the particular agency, don't use them at all. I haven't got a clue what "Code 7" is; we've gone mostly to plain speech in my area, and we never had a Code 7 in the first place. We used to have a Signal 7 for a Larceny...

    Nothing shows the lack of research like the little things like that. I shudder every time I hear a show filmed in LA but set in the DC area talk about "the I-66" or "the 495." I know that's how folks out there talk, but around here, it's just "495" or Sixty-six. (Don't even get me started on a leisurely jaunt from the Navy Yard to Norfolk. That's a 4 hour plus trip... before traffic.)

    As to the Taser in the described scenario... Inappropriate use of force. And by the time you try it and then try to transition to a sidearm, anyone halfway capable will be cutting you to ribbons. Shoot their ass right away. You might find Rory Miller's book Violence: A Writer's Guide helpful.
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    121trafic, Keith72,Jks9199 thank you for your help. I didn't know this.
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    Typically the officer is placed on administrative leave, pending the outcome of an internal investigation. Some agencies will turn the investigation over to another agency, like the State Patrol, to insure the investigation is impartial. In my state, if someone is killed by law enforcement, a grand jury must be convened. As long as the officer was acting within the confines of their use of force continuum, they will be exonerated of wrong doing. In the scenario above, a person advancing on an officer with an edged weapon would be considered an immediate threat of death or serious bodily injury and the officer would be justified in shooting the suspect.

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    If you're a writer, that "dispensing with the Taser" idea can be a good writer's tool to explain why she doesn't use the Taser.

    It would go through her mind as she considered her options.
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