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Does anybody have any experience with Glock's .357 sig? I was considering purchasing the 32 for a concealed carry/ backcountry gun. I know that anything short of a .44 magnum won't be 100% effective against the brown bear up here, but it looks like ballistically it should at least hold up to a .357 magnum be somewhat effective. Any opinions/experience?
Hell, if you need it for bears, you probably should be getting prices for a cannon or something similar:D
lol yeah my little bro carries a S&W .500, but I want something that can adequately be used for both. I just can't afford two guns right now...Quote:
Originally Posted by k-9max
I've got quite a few rounds out of a 32.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace
However, if you are looking for a semi-auto for bear protection and insist on a Glock, I'd suggest a Glock 20.
That said, if you do stick with the Glock 32 for such purposes, keep in mind that the best load for bear is VERY hard cast lead, and that Glocks do not shoot lead bullets very long before they kaboom.
Corbon does make a DPX load that is comprised of entirely copper, which may work well.
To kill a bear, you need deep deep penetration - hollowpoints of the typical variety are near useless.
My bear gun is a .357 revolver loaded with Grizzly Cartridge 180 grain wide flat nose gas checked hard lead bullets.
decided to swing in and say hi again I see.
That makes sense because of all the muscle and bone structure. I like the 10 mm round, but I wanted to stick with something I could get in a compact or subcompact frame. Thanks for the info...Quote:
Originally Posted by maclean
[EDIT] I just saw on the webpage they have a Glock 29, 10 mm subcompact...
If you do go with the 32, check out the DPX stuff from Corbon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace
It's a little light for my tastes on a large animal, but it sounds like you recognize the limitations.
For the 10mm, they make a "Hunter" bullet that is heavy enough and fast enough to achieve what you are looking for.
https://www.dakotaammo.net/shop/inde...3d92d1a4488cb7
You'll have to call them to find out if it is a lead bullet or a brass jacket over a lead bullet.
Strike that, I called them for you...
Their 10mm "Hunter" comes in two flavors.
1. 180 Grain Bonded Core Soft Point
2. 200 Grain Round Nose Penetrator
You want number 2, it is a hard lead bullet encapsulated with a hard copper jacket. It's designed to punch through and break bone.
Excellent! Thanks for the info. That in the compact frame sounds like just what I'm looking for. The 562 ftlbs sounds really good. I really appreciate the feedback, thanks...Quote:
Originally Posted by maclean
No prob.
Realize the energy and velocity figures are from a full sized Glock 20, but Corbon is usually good even out of a slightly shorter barrel.
They underestimate their velocity figures.
Okay that makes sense. I'll let you know when/ if I get it...Quote:
Originally Posted by maclean
Here is the one I just bought for a bear gun in Grizzly country. I guess any gun is better than no gun but I feel you are seriously undergunned taking on a grizzly with anything less than 1000 ft lbs of energy at the muzzle. A .44 mag with a 240 grain solid produces in the neighborhood of 1100 Ft Lbs. Here was my choice:
4" Taurus Tracker in .44 Magnum. Muzzle is ported. Gun weighs in at 34 ounces. Recoil is not too shaby with the porting. Its also double action
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...Tracker4SS.jpg
I carry this in Grizzly country when I bow hunt. Any weapon you choose, strongly consider how you carry it. As you well know living in Alaska, a Griz can out run a quarter horse in 50 yards. Getting it out can be very difficult before they are on you. Thats why muzzle energy is so important. You probably wont get more than one or two off. That is if you see it coming.
This shaky ole geezer prefers to let the bear have my fish or lunch. But if he wants me or my escape route; then I prefer a full-magazine 12 ga Winchester 1300, Rem 870, or my Benelli Super 90 with day-glow slug sights and loaded with 1 oz slugs.