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    President Bush "a gem" to work for...

    I can't verify the source, but I like to think that it's true...
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    All of this rings true to me and what a scary thought if Hillary is elected....


    I flew 4 Presidential support missions in the C-141 out of Dover AFB, DE. Two for President Johnson and two for President Nixon. Johnson was a first class jerk and on the two occasions I flew for him, if the Secret Service and their Liaison in the Pentagon hadn't intervened, we would have had to stay on the airplane for hours while he (Johnson) was off somewhere.

    Nixon never required that and the four (4) stops we made with him he was cordial to the Secret Service and to me and my crew. Denny Keast: We had a neighbor when I lived in DC who was part of the secret service presidential detail for many years. His stories of Kennedy and Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents' plane.BR> Yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret "dates," and LBJ was a typical Texas "good ole boy" womanizer. Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety.

    The information below is accurate: The elder Bush and current president Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the air crews who fly them around. When the president flies, there are several planes that also go one carries the armored limo, another the security detail, plus usually a press aircraft. Both Bush's made it a point to stay home on holidays, so the Air Force and security people could have a day with their families.

    WHAT WAS: Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail. She forbade her daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries with them. Sometimes Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean spiritedness ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless, but never in her mother's presence. Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely young lady. The consensus opinion was that Chelsea loved her Mom but did not like her. Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were charged to protect her life. Her security detail dutifully did their job, as professionals should, but they all loathed her and wanted to be on a different detail. Hillary Clinton was despised by the Secret Service as a whole.

    Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife. Often the Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attacks Hillary would use against her husband. They were embarrassed for his sake by the manner and frequency in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind closed doors Hillary Clinton would scream and holler so loudly that everyone could hear what she was saying.

    Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most wondered why he tolerated it instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife. It was crystal clear that the Clinton's neither liked nor respected each other and this was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was genuinely a "Marriage of convenience."

    Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the Lewinsky scandal, which hurt her gravely. Bill Clinton did in fact have charisma, and occasionally would smile at or shake hands with his security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of superiority towards them. His security detail uniformly believed him to be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a motive that in some way would enhance his image and political career. He was polite, but not kind. They did not particularly like him and nobody trusted him.

    WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN: Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton. They were more friendly toward each other than either of them were towards former President Clinton. They were not intimate, so please don't read that in. They were very close in a political way. Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant. She initially liked Hillary but soon after the election she had her "pegged" and no longer liked her or associated with her except for events that were politically obligatory. Al Gore was far more left wing than Bill Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and thought he was too "centrist." He despised all Republicans. His hatred was bitter and this was long before he announced for the Presidency. This hatred was something that he and Hillary had in common. They often said as much, even in the presence of their security detail. Net her of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined, neither of them even liked Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton did have some good qualities, whereas Al Gore and Hillary had none, in the view of their security details. Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security detail. He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they had no control. Al Gore also looked down on them, as they finally observed and learned with certainty on one occasion. Al got angry at his offspring and pointed at his security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and be like them?" Word of this insult by the former Vice-President quickly spread and he became as disliked by the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed Al Gore would not be elected President, and they really did have private celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won. This was not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate Al Gore's defeat.

    WHAT IS:

    Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's detail. Without exception, they concede that she is perhaps the nicest and most kind person they have ever had the privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she offers. She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation. There is nothing false about her. This is her genuine nature. Her security detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh air." They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch of the North."

    Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect and he always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas detail. Every time the president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Q for his security detail and he helps serve their meals. He sits with them, eats with them, and talks with them. He knows each of them by their first name, and calls them by their first name as a show of affection. He always asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers. They believe that he is deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like, love, or respect anyone more than President Bush. Most of them did not know they would feel this way, until they had an opportunity to work for him and learn that his manner was genuine and consistent. It has never changed since he began his Presidency. He always treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.

    Please pass this on. It is important for Americans to have a true inside understanding of their President.
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    President Bush a "gem" to work for....

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    Ya know, I would like to believe this is true, and hope that it is...but. I also think that due to Bush's super shitty rating in the publics eye right now, this smacks of an engineered "leak".
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    This has been around for a while. Some of it's true, as leaked by Secret Service agents who worked for Hillary, and some is most likely made up. You can always tell a forward with questionable truth because it's written like a personal memoir from some random guy.

    But we all know Hillary is a bitch, regardless

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    I've worked with the Secrest Service on several motorcades in my town and every agent I have talked with has nothing but good to say about how President Bush and Ms. Bush treat them. One agent told me about one time when they were out on the perimeter at Crawford and here comes a pick up truck driven by the President. He had a big pot of chili and they all sat down and ate chili together. I met Mrs. Bush once and she seemed like a nice friendly woman.
    On the other hand, they told me Clinton was a jerk. He would get up in the morning and say he thought about playing golf at one of 3 courses. The Secret Service would go out and clear the courses and then Clinton would change his mind and not go.

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    I worked with an Officer who's son was on Al Gore's protection detail. I asked him about his kid, and he said, "He really likes his job." When I asked how he liked Al Gore, all Dad would say was, "He likes his job, but Gore is a jerk."
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    Quote Originally Posted by conalabu View Post
    Ya know, I would like to believe this is true, and hope that it is...but. I also think that due to Bush's super shitty rating in the publics eye right now, this smacks of an engineered "leak".

    I know for a fact that quite a bit of this is true. At least when it starts with the Clintons and on up to Bush. Working in the DC area allows me to meet quite a few SS people. What has been said about the Clintons, Bush and Gore is true. Bush does treat his people in LE with respect as well as the military. He may not go down as a good president but he will be well liked by those working to protect him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K9ForLife View Post
    I know for a fact that quite a bit of this is true. At least when it starts with the Clintons and on up to Bush. Working in the DC area allows me to meet quite a few SS people. What has been said about the Clintons, Bush and Gore is true. Bush does treat his people in LE with respect as well as the military. He may not go down as a good president but he will be well liked by those working to protect him.

    SMACK! Thanks for getting the poit of my email.

    It was not meant to be political. I kind of think that Bush has been doing a crappy job sometimes lately, but I've always believed the stories that he is a genuine and warm-hearted man. I generally don't just take stuff at face value, but I like to think that I have a good read on the guy just based on what I see of him. Not the most accurate read by any means I'm sure, but it's what I feel in my gut.
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    Without sounding politically motivated, I think this is very believable.

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    A personal friend of mine was assigned to the White House during the Clinton Administration, as part of the Navy's Mess Mgmt team. (That's the kitchen for those not familiar with Navy speak)

    He had nothing but nice things to say about the Clintons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PDawg View Post
    A personal friend of mine was assigned to the White House during the Clinton Administration, as part of the Navy's Mess Mgmt team. (That's the kitchen for those not familiar with Navy speak)

    He had nothing but nice things to say about the Clintons.
    You don't mess with the guy cooking your food

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virginian View Post
    You don't mess with the guy cooking your food


    I've never been big on second-hand info about someone's character. If you talk to every single person who has had contact with someone, you will find those that think they are jerks, and those that think they are nice.

    Throw in a strong longing to support a predetermined opinion on anyone, and you start getting into the gossip realm.
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    I was just kidding, Pdawg, saying that the guy cooked for the Clintons so they were extra nice to him.

    I definitely don't judge character by email forwards, but there are some hints in news reports about a person's character, such as sexual relations with interns

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virginian View Post
    I was just kidding, Pdawg, saying that the guy cooked for the Clintons so they were extra nice to him.

    I definitely don't judge character by email forwards, but there are some hints in news reports about a person's character, such as sexual relations with interns


    I was living in Texas when Clinton was running the first time - everyone there knew he was a hound-dog!
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    Wonder what they have to say about Jeemy

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    I can say this about Bush. A few years ago while in DC for Police Week our Honor Guard was involved in the cordon for the President at the Capitol. When he finished his speech and was precedding back towards his tent he stopped and posed for pictures infront of our team. When one fo our guys and myself tried to get closer to take pictures the SS guys stopped us. He shouted to let us through to take the pictures because he was among friends, the LE community. He then let our team take individual pictures inside his tent (after he left) between the American flag and the Presidential flag. He genually likes and respects LE.
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    Ok, most of this is second hand info PDawg. But I HAVe seen bush fight his way through a crowd of foreign security people to get his lead SS man through the checkpoint while in Venezuela (location may be wrong, but I've seen it happen).
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    I have several friends who have worked for the SS under Clinton & Bush. They have been telling me what is in the original post for years. Regardless of how you feel about his domestic & foregin policy, he treats LE well. I spoke to a close friend on Honolulu PD the other day. 2 HPD motor officers were injured in the presidents motorcade in Honolulu. If you have seen the picture in the press of the woman kneeling next to the injured motor officer, that is the presidents personal nurse. He sent her to render aid to the officer. He later phoned the officer from Air Force 1.

    An officer from my department was severly wounded in Afganistan. Bush visited him at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Bush asked if the officer needed anything. The officer was concerned that his injuries would not allow him to keep his police job. Presidet Bush offered to speak to our chief on the officers behalf. The good news is the officer recovered to the extent he was able to return to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXCOP View Post
    Ok, most of this is second hand info PDawg. But I HAVe seen bush fight his way through a crowd of foreign security people to get his lead SS man through the checkpoint while in Venezuela (location may be wrong, but I've seen it happen).
    *takes TXCOP gently by the earlobe*

    Did I suggest for a second that Bush was not a nice guy?

    My remarks were regarding the negative remarks people are willing to make about someone they have never interacted with.

    Anyone here ever meet someone they heard nothing but bad stuff about, only to discover they were really nice?

    Maybe it's my job, but I take calls from people that want to complain about how they were treated by a deputy. I don't know the circumstances, but I sure as heck stand up for my guys. Even the ones that have not been especially nice to me on the radio. I know that you have a stressful job, and sometimes you have to have a stern demeanor with people. Sometimes you're busy, you are on your guard, so you may bark your traffic to me - I don't take it personally.

    As far as I'm concerned, it's the same for the President. It's a stressful job, and everyone is watching your every move. You're gonna piss some people off along the way.
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    I can verify this for fact. I will not speak for the entire USSS but my oldest brother is a USSS Agent and has been assigned to the President and has been to TX with him. He loves being able to be around the President and his Wife, and rates them very high as people, not politicians.

    He did not how ever have anything to say about President Hillary Clinton and her wife Bill. He was not an agent at that time. But he did say it will be a bad day if she ever is elected and there will likely be some USSS openings soon after!
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