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    Common sense prevailed!

    Everyone is aware of the FEMA "guidelines" which strive to eliminate the "10-code". Well, the fine print says that the Feds. will with hold funding if 10 codes aren't eliminated when dealing with agencies outside of your local jurisdiction. It is "strongly recommended that "Plain English" be used within in agency," but is not a requirement. Well. our Sheriff decided that he doesn't like the "Plain English" so we've gone back to the "10" codes for our dispatch! It's great being able to go "10-41" again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by keith758 View Post
    It's great being able to go "10-41" again!
    10-40 what???

    Here is my dispatch group (non secretive) 10 codes..
    By gosh, we donít have a "10-41"....
    What ever would we do in a crisis????

    10-2 Radio Signal Good
    10-4 Affirmative - Also means Situation OK
    10-6 Busy
    10-7 Out of Service
    10-8 In Service
    10-11 Beginning Shift
    10-19 Return to Location
    10-20 Present Location - Sometimes just referred to as 20
    10-21 Telephone Dispatch
    10-23 Arrived at Location
    10-27 Drivers License Information
    10-28 Vehicle Registration Information
    10-29 Warrant Information
    10-30 Dangerous Situation
    10-34 Request Current Time
    10-42 Change Talk Group
    10-43 Telephone Precinct
    10-45 Open Sally Port / Gate
    10-46 Confidential
    10-47 Minor Injury
    10-48 Severe Injury
    10-49 Fatal Injury
    10-51 Sensitive Information
    10-52 Felony Warrant
    10-53 Misdemeanor Warrant
    10-54 Warrant Confirmed
    10-55 Subject Flagged Dangerous - Usually just read flag
    10-61 Subject In Custody
    10-62 Transporting Prisoner
    10-63 Transporting Citizen
    10-64 Transport Complete
    10-71 Out of Service
    10-72 Out of Service - Detail
    10-73 Out of Service - Follow Up
    10-74 Out of Service - Servicing Equipment
    10-75 Out of Service
    10-81 Conditionally Available - Coffee Break
    10-82 Conditionally Available - Meal Break
    10-83 Conditionally Available - Report Writing
    10-84 Conditionally Available - Checking Vehicle
    10-86 Conditionally Available - Walk & Talk
    10-89 Conditionally Available - Other
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    [QUOTE=Charlie X;136545]10-40 what???

    Here is my dispatch group (non secretive) 10 codes..
    By gosh, we donít have a "10-41"....
    What ever would we do in a crisis????

    I quess you'd just have to asssume I'm on duty (10-41) but then again, in the event of a crisis, I'd tell you that in "Plain English!"
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    My PD is still stuck on plain-talk. I wish we would go back to codes. The codes are intended for brevity, not secrecy. Some people incorrectly use the codes which defeats the reason for using them. 10-32 is “Man with a gun” but a lot of people will say “A man with a 10-32”. Anybody listening knows what you are saying.
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    I'm all about plain talk. Codes confuse me, plus it doesn't seem to take any longer for dispatch to say "check for party with a gun" than it does to say "check on a 10-XX".

    We use just use the following (non-secretive) codes:

    Code 1: Call Dispatch
    Code 2: Call Station
    Code 3: Go to station
    Code 4: Party not wanted/slang for "I'm okay here"
    Code 5: Wanted Party
    Code 6: Arrival on scene
    Code 7: (this is by far the most important): LUNCH BREAK (or a coffee break -- which no one actually takes outside of day shift)
    Code 9: Non-emergency run or request for cover
    Code 10: Emergency run/ requesting cover to come in hot.

    Even then, we really just use codes: 4,5,6,7,9,and 10. God only knows why we have no eight.

    Beyond this, it is good ol' fashioned plain English

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    Old dog, old school! Gimme the 10 codes!
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    When I was an Explorer, the department only had a few codes for phrases that were used commonly. I don't like the idea of a code for every little thing that you might ever have to say. You're bound to forget the ones that rarely get used, and then you end up using plain English anyway.

    Code 1: normal response
    Code 2: [eliminated]
    Code 3: expedited response
    Code 4: no further assistance necessary
    Code 5: maintain radio silence
    Code 6: out for investigation
    Code 7: check for wants on vehicle/object
    Code 8: check vehicle registration
    Code 9: check for wants on person
    Code 10: break
    Code 11: alarm at the jail
    Code 12: improper radio use
    Code 30: officer down

    There are also single words that can be used almost like a code, but are more clear.

    "In-Service" means on duty.
    "Secure" means off duty.
    "Out" means you've arrived at the location you were enroute to.
    "Traffic" indicates you're making a traffic stop.
    "Clear" means you've completed your stop/left the scene you were at.
    "Land-line" means contact by phone.

    So it's essentially plain English, but reduced to a sort of verbal short-hand.
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    I would have to say Im old school as well just give me some good oldfashioned 10 codes

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    Code 1 - Emergency Traffic Only, hold air on primary, all non-emergent traffic to car-to-car
    C2 - Expedited response, no lights/siren. (Code 2.5 is our unofficial way of saying we didn't run hot, but we busted all the lights and hauled ass. )
    C3 - Emergent Response
    C4 - I am okay unless I say otherwise
    C5 - Party/Vehicle is wanted (although this is used mainly for people)
    C6 - One in custody (actual arrest for violation...different from "Detaining One.)
    C7 - Meal break, although it's almost never used as we are still supposed to be available for calls
    C8 - Mental subject
    C10 - Out with suspicious incident/vehicle/party
    "Paul 14, Code 10."
    "14, go ahead"
    "Paul 14, 123 Main St. on an open door" or "Paul 14, Mom and Pop Laundry with Colorado plate 123ABC, occupied X4" etc.

    There are also a few codes that are unwritten, such as signals to use if you are in duress but can't communicate, i.e. being held hostage, etc. As this is public, I won't disclose them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope View Post

    "In-Service" means on duty. We also use this as a way of saying "I'm available" after a call is cleared
    "Secure" means off duty. We use "Out of Service", "End of Watch", or "EOW"
    "Out" means you've arrived at the location you were enroute to.We mostly use "onscene" but out is used as well
    "Traffic" indicates you're making a traffic stop.
    "Clear" means you've completed your stop/left the scene you were at.
    "Land-line" means contact by phone.
    Jackalope, we use the above phrases the exact same way except for my bold print. Plain English all the way.
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    Our department uses the CHP 10 codes and I like them. There was a bit of a learning curve to them but now I don't even need to think about what they mean.

    Call descriptions are mostly in plain speech, save a few penal code references. For example a dispatcher here will dispatch a call as "211 [robbery] in progress...." or "Units respond to a 415[disturbing the peace, physical or verbal fight] at Mother's Tavern...suspects are two white males...".
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    I've never understood the need for codes that you have to think about what one you want, before you transmit. How can that be quicker? Glad I never had to use them in my service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trojan 42 View Post
    I've never understood the need for codes that you have to think about what one you want, before you transmit.
    I think most become familiar enough with the codes that they don't need to think about what they mean, they just know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawdog32 View Post
    I would have to say Im old school as well just give me some good oldfashioned 10 codes
    Yep, codes are the way to go. If the shiznit hits the fan and we have several agencies on the radio then we can talk plain 'ol english if we need to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trojan 42 View Post
    I've never understood the need for codes that you have to think about what one you want, before you transmit. How can that be quicker? Glad I never had to use them in my service.
    It's 2nd nature. I hear guys even saying them in normal conversation with other cops, it becomes a substitute word you don't even think about. "Yea that sig20 (mentally challenged/insane) is calling in every day"
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    We just got to switch back to 10-codes as well.

    I think one of the major misunderstandings about 10-codes vs. "plain english" is the amount of traffic that is handled by codes. My department only uses about 30 different codes, and everything else is plain english. It's not like we use a huge string of codes that require you to learn the equivalent of a second language.

    For me, the biggest benefit of codes is brevity. We have one frequency that we can use to speak to dispatch unless we switch to another agency's channel, and there are only two of those. When we were forced to go to plain english the radio traffic became longer and more rambling. I think the main reason for that, in our department, was the lack of a standardized response in plain english.

    The second big benefit of 10-codes was clarity. When I was listening to another officer on the radio, I only had about 20 "codes" that I expected to hear him say in any situation. I was primed to go to Defcon 5 if I heard a certain code. I didn't have to think about it, it was like drawing your gun under a stress situation without realizing that you did it. Once you get used to the codes you don't think about them, they're just totally natural.

    I could probably be more clear about this, but I am really tired right now. I worked 3rd shift last night, and there are guys in my house right now replacing all my windows. No sleep for Aegis.

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    Here is my list. I think 10-codes are a pain, when everyones are different. At least make them all the same.
    Expanded Associated Public Safety Communications Officers (APCO) Codes. 10-0 - Use Caution
    10-1 - Signal Weak
    10-2 - Signal Good
    10-3 - Stop transmitting/Stand-By
    10-4 - Affirmative/Everything is Okay
    10-5 - Relay To...
    10-6 - Busy
    10-7 - Out Of Service
    10-8 - In service
    10-9 - Repeat
    10-10 - Fight In Progress
    10-11 - Animal Problem
    10-12 - Stand By, Remain Alert, Stop
    10-13 - Weather - Road Report
    10-14 - Report Of Prowler
    10-15 - Civil Disturbance
    10-16 - Domestic Trouble
    10-17 - Meet Complainant
    10-18 - Urgent
    10-19 - Return to...
    10-20 - Location
    10-21 - Phone Number/Person
    J1 - At Your Convenience
    10-22 - Disregard
    10-23 - Arrived at Scene
    10-24 - Assignment Completed
    10-25 - Report in Person
    10-26 - Detaining Subject, Expedite
    10-27 - Drivers License Information
    10-28 - Vehicle Registration Information
    10-29 - Check Record for Wanted
    J1 - Misdemeanor Arrest Record
    J2 - Felony Arrest Record
    J3 - Considered Dangerous
    GM - Known Gang Member
    SO - Registered Sex Offender
    10-30 - Illegal Use of Radio
    10-31 - Crime In Progress
    10-32 - Man With Gun
    10-33 - EMERGENCY
    10-34 - Riot
    10-35 - Major Crime Alert
    10-36 - Correct Time
    10-37 - Investigate Suspicious Auto
    10-38 - Stopping Suspicious Auto
    10-39 - Urgent-Use Light & Siren
    10-40 - Tactical Situation
    10-41 - Begin shift
    10-42 - End shift
    10-43 - Information
    J1 - Confidential
    10-44 - Request Permission To Leave Patrol For...
    J1 - Personal Relief
    J2 - Vehicle Service
    J3 - Vehicle Wash
    J4 - Meal Break
    10-45 - Animal Carcass At...
    10-46 - Assist Motorist
    J3 - Vehicle Blocking Road
    10-47 - Emergency Road Repairs Needed
    10-48 - Traffic Control
    10-49 - Traffic Light Out
    10-50 - Traffic Accident
    J1 - Minor
    J2 - Serious W/ Injuries
    J3 - Road Blocked
    J4 - Fatality

    10-51 - Wrecker Needed (Tow Truck)
    10-52 - Ambulance Needed
    10-53 - Road Blocked
    10-54 - Livestock On Highway
    10-55 - Intoxicated Driver
    J1 - Charges will be filed
    J2 - Make your own case
    10-56 - Intoxicated Pedestrian
    10-57 - Hit and Run
    10-58 - Direct Traffic
    10-59 - Convoy Or Escort (Bank Deposit Drop-Off)
    10-60 - Squad In Vicinity
    10-61 - Personnel In Area
    10-62 - Reply To Message
    10-63 - Prepare To Make Written Copy
    10-64 - Message For Local Delivery
    10-65 - Net Message Assignment
    10-66 - Message Cancellation
    10-67 - Clear To Read Net Message
    10-68 - Crime Information
    10-69 - Message Received
    10-70 - Fire Alarm
    10-71 - Advise Nature of Fire
    10-72 - Report Progress on Fire
    10-73 - Smoke Report
    10-74 - Negative
    10-75 - In Contact With...
    10-76 - En Route
    J1 - Prisoner
    J2 - Female
    J5 - To Make Relief
    10-77 - ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival)
    10-78 - Need Assistance
    10-79 - Notify Coroner
    10-80 - Unit-to-Unit Radio Traffic
    10-81 - Prisoner in Custody
    10-82 - Confidential/Status
    J0 - No cars available at this time
    J1 - Beat cars available
    J2 - Overlay cars available
    10-83 - Switch to STLCO Channel 8 (Car-to-Car Channel)
    10-84 - Estimated Time of Arrival (ETA)
    10-85 - Arrival Delayed - Will Be Late
    10-86 - CAD Computer Down
    10-87 - Pick Up...
    10-88 - Advise phone number of...
    10-89 - Please Reply / Report Status
    10-90 - Bank Alarm
    10-91 - Pick Up Subject
    10-92 - Contract Service
    J1 - Beginning Patrol
    J2 - Ending Patrol
    10-93 - Blockage
    10-94 - Drag Racing
    10-95 - Bomb Threat
    10-96 - Detain Subject
    10-97 - Test Signal
    10-98 - Prior Offenses
    10-99 - Positive Stolen/Wanted (see J Codes)
    J1 - Misdemeanor Wanted or Stolen
    J2 - Felony Wanted
    J3 - Wanted and Considered Dangerous, May be Armed
    J4 - USE EXTREME CAUTION
    10-100 - Police Needed
    10-105 - Deceased Body
    10-106 - Suspicious Person
    10-107 - Check Residence
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    beans, those are the same codes we use. I agree they should all be the same, but who's gonna tell a department that THEY are the ones that have to change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by keith758 View Post
    beans, those are the same codes we use. I agree they should all be the same, but who's gonna tell a department that THEY are the ones that have to change?
    I don't know, just thought it would be easier if everyone is on the same page.
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