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    San Francisco Approves Plastic-Bag Ban
    By LISA LEFF
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    Updated: 8:13 a.m. ET March 28, 2007

    SAN FRANCISCO - City leaders approved a ban on plastic grocery bags after weeks of lobbying on both sides from environmentalists and a supermarket trade group. If Mayor Gavin Newsom signs the ban as expected, San Francisco would be the first U.S. city to adopt such a rule.

    The law, approved 10-1, requires large markets and drug stores to offer customers bags made of paper that can be recycled, plastic that breaks down easily enough to be made into compost, or reusable cloth.

    San Francisco supervisors and supporters said that by banning the petroleum-based sacks, blamed for littering streets and choking marine life, the measure would go a long way toward helping the city earn its green stripes.

    "Hopefully, other cities and states will follow suit," said Supervisor Ross Mirkarimi, who crafted the ban after trying to get a 15-cent per bag tax passed in 2005.

    The 50 grocery stores that would be most affected by the law argued that the ban was not reasonable because plastic bags made of corn byproducts are a relatively new, expensive and untested product. Some said they might offer only paper bags at checkout.

    "I think what grocers will do now that this has passed is, they will review all their options and decide what they think works best for them economically," said David Heylen, a spokesman for the California Grocers Association.

    Newsom supported the measure. The switch is scheduled to take effect in six months for grocery stores and in one year for pharmacies.

    Craig Noble, a spokesman for the Natural Resources Defense Council, said it would be disappointing if grocers rejected the biodegradable plastic bag option, since more trees would have to be cut down if paper bag use increases.

    The new breed of bags "offers consumers a way out of a false choice, a way out of the paper or plastic dilemma," Noble said.

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    Oh lord, that is just dumb.
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    I'll be sure to ask for all my groceries to be double bagged, each item bagged alone to avoid contamination. Just to make up for this crap. Way to go hippies!

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    I have to admitt I am one of those folks that brings her own grocery bags to the store... they let you do this program here of fabric bags you can use with a particular store... or I use paper...
    I hate plastic and have seen what it has done to so many animals etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gozling View Post
    I have to admitt I am one of those folks that brings her own grocery bags to the store... they let you do this program here of fabric bags you can use with a particular store... or I use paper...
    I hate plastic and have seen what it has done to so many animals etc...
    I know... LOL... I am now a registered gay hippie
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    *stabbing my eyes out.... stabbing my eyes out...whacking my head against the wall repeatedly*
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    Found blackberry riots and
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    An old skid road
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    Hollows filled with
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    While waves wrapped
    Intricate lacings of weeds
    'Round mule spinners

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piggybank Cop View Post
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    I think walmart is taking up the slack, I honestly think I got 10 bags for the little bit of stuff I got today. Frankly I hate trying to get rid of all the damn things, but I do use them for mini trash bags and for disposing of cat litter. And Gozzy, it's not that uncommon for people to bring their own.
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    Thanks ducky... I was afraid the bunny was going to thunk his head!

    I am like a shopping nazi.... any of the baggers come over and I am like... I hope you dont mind but I like to bag my own stuff...
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    We dallied under
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    Searched for lady slippers
    But instead
    Found blackberry riots and
    Desiccated branches

    An old skid road
    Brought ghost ferns and
    Hollows filled with
    Skunk cabbage
    While waves wrapped
    Intricate lacings of weeds
    'Round mule spinners

    His cyanotic eyes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ducky View Post
    I think walmart is taking up the slack, I honestly think I got 10 bags for the little bit of stuff I got today. Frankly I hate trying to get rid of all the damn things, but I do use them for mini trash bags and for disposing of cat litter. And Gozzy, it's not that uncommon for people to bring their own.
    I use them as wastebasket liners. I've seen people bring their own bags, especially in stores like Whole Foods. At one of the supermarkets here, you get a monetary credit (albeit a very small one) if you re-use your bags each time you shop. It really isn't that uncommon.




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    Quote Originally Posted by gozling View Post
    Thanks ducky... I was afraid the bunny was going to thunk his head!

    I am like a shopping nazi.... any of the baggers come over and I am like... I hope you dont mind but I like to bag my own stuff...
    lol...

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    ANd I bet Goz shops at that newfangled Whole Foods and has a hemp wallet and a pair of Birkenstocks {ok not really Birks} and has a BIG OLE PEACE sign on her VW Bug...



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    Quote Originally Posted by gozling View Post
    Thanks ducky... I was afraid the bunny was going to thunk his head!

    I am like a shopping nazi.... any of the baggers come over and I am like... I hope you dont mind but I like to bag my own stuff...
    lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by E-man View Post
    ANd I bet Goz shops at that newfangled Whole Foods and has a hemp wallet and a pair of Birkenstocks {ok not really Birks} and has a BIG OLE PEACE sign on her VW Bug...

    :
    sad thing is I do shop at whole foods for lots of things LOL... I have a pair of Birks that I wear riding my bike on the broadwalk here at the beach while I blow bubbles at people... and I have a Hemp necklace that my friend gave to me

    hee hee...parents owned a vw bug.. and were WICKED hippies...
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    An old skid road
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    Intricate lacings of weeds
    'Round mule spinners

    His cyanotic eyes
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    Quote Originally Posted by gozling View Post
    I am like a hippie in cops clothing without tons of the liberal bullshit

    The best kind...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gozling View Post
    sad thing is I do shop at whole foods for lots of things LOL... I have a pair of Birks that I wear riding my bike on the broadwalk here at the beach while I blow bubbles at people... and I have a Hemp necklace that my friend gave to me

    hee hee...parents owned a vw bug.. and were WICKED hippies...
    I am like a hippie in cops clothing without tons of the liberal bullshit
    And for that you get green peace hugs from the resident hippie in non-cops clothing with tons of the liberal bullshit! I knew we were kindred spirits!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    And for that you get green peace hugs from the resident hippie in non-cops clothing with tons of the liberal bullshit! I knew we were kindred spirits!
    so why cant you be more like me since I am sorta like you?
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    We dallied under
    Vine maples and sapling alders
    Searched for lady slippers
    But instead
    Found blackberry riots and
    Desiccated branches

    An old skid road
    Brought ghost ferns and
    Hollows filled with
    Skunk cabbage
    While waves wrapped
    Intricate lacings of weeds
    'Round mule spinners

    His cyanotic eyes
    Were hard enough to make
    The sun turn tail and
    Tender enough to attract me
    To his world of illusion

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    plastic bags made of corn byproducts are a relatively new, expensive and untested product.
    Every now and then I'll still get something shipped in those biodegradable packing peanuts, but its rare. When they first came out Apple Computer jumped on board, packed everything in them...

    ...and ended up with thousands of computers covered in goop. Seems the original ones would break down even in humid weather.

    I can imagine the same happening with these bags. Parking lots littered with goods on rainy days, car seats covered in bioslime.

 

 
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