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03-28-07, 08:38 AM #1
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San Francisco Approves Plastic-Bag Ban
By LISA LEFF
The Associated Press
Updated: 8:13 a.m. ET March 28, 2007
SAN FRANCISCO - City leaders approved a ban on plastic grocery bags after weeks of lobbying on both sides from environmentalists and a supermarket trade group. If Mayor Gavin Newsom signs the ban as expected, San Francisco would be the first U.S. city to adopt such a rule.
The law, approved 10-1, requires large markets and drug stores to offer customers bags made of paper that can be recycled, plastic that breaks down easily enough to be made into compost, or reusable cloth.
San Francisco supervisors and supporters said that by banning the petroleum-based sacks, blamed for littering streets and choking marine life, the measure would go a long way toward helping the city earn its green stripes.
"Hopefully, other cities and states will follow suit," said Supervisor Ross Mirkarimi, who crafted the ban after trying to get a 15-cent per bag tax passed in 2005.
The 50 grocery stores that would be most affected by the law argued that the ban was not reasonable because plastic bags made of corn byproducts are a relatively new, expensive and untested product. Some said they might offer only paper bags at checkout.
"I think what grocers will do now that this has passed is, they will review all their options and decide what they think works best for them economically," said David Heylen, a spokesman for the California Grocers Association.
Newsom supported the measure. The switch is scheduled to take effect in six months for grocery stores and in one year for pharmacies.
Craig Noble, a spokesman for the Natural Resources Defense Council, said it would be disappointing if grocers rejected the biodegradable plastic bag option, since more trees would have to be cut down if paper bag use increases.
The new breed of bags "offers consumers a way out of a false choice, a way out of the paper or plastic dilemma," Noble said.
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03-28-07, 08:42 AM #2
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Oh lord, that is just dumb.
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03-28-07, 08:42 AM #3
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I'll be sure to ask for all my groceries to be double bagged, each item bagged alone to avoid contamination. Just to make up for this crap. Way to go hippies!
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03-28-07, 08:46 AM #4
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Well thats what happens when a bunch of gay hippies get together.
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03-28-07, 03:49 PM #5
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I have to admitt I am one of those folks that brings her own grocery bags to the store... they let you do this program here of fabric bags you can use with a particular store... or I use paper...
I hate plastic and have seen what it has done to so many animals etc...
I know... LOL... I am now a registered gay hippiehttp://www.allpoetry.com/Grunts%20Girl
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03-28-07, 03:51 PM #6
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03-28-07, 04:00 PM #7
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No; just Jenna II.
Originally Posted by gozling
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03-28-07, 04:05 PM #8
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*stabbing my eyes out.... stabbing my eyes out...whacking my head against the wall repeatedly*
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We dallied under
Vine maples and sapling alders
Searched for lady slippers
But instead
Found blackberry riots and
Desiccated branches
An old skid road
Brought ghost ferns and
Hollows filled with
Skunk cabbage
While waves wrapped
Intricate lacings of weeds
'Round mule spinners
His cyanotic eyes
Were hard enough to make
The sun turn tail and
Tender enough to attract me
To his world of illusion
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03-28-07, 04:07 PM #9
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Originally Posted by Piggybank Cop
No; just Jenna II.
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03-28-07, 04:25 PM #10
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I think walmart is taking up the slack, I honestly think I got 10 bags for the little bit of stuff I got today. Frankly I hate trying to get rid of all the damn things, but I do use them for mini trash bags and for disposing of cat litter. And Gozzy, it's not that uncommon for people to bring their own.
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03-28-07, 04:29 PM #11
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Thanks ducky... I was afraid the bunny was going to thunk his head!
I am like a shopping nazi.... any of the baggers come over and I am like... I hope you dont mind but I like to bag my own stuff...
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We dallied under
Vine maples and sapling alders
Searched for lady slippers
But instead
Found blackberry riots and
Desiccated branches
An old skid road
Brought ghost ferns and
Hollows filled with
Skunk cabbage
While waves wrapped
Intricate lacings of weeds
'Round mule spinners
His cyanotic eyes
Were hard enough to make
The sun turn tail and
Tender enough to attract me
To his world of illusion
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03-28-07, 04:35 PM #12
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I use them as wastebasket liners. I've seen people bring their own bags, especially in stores like Whole Foods. At one of the supermarkets here, you get a monetary credit (albeit a very small one) if you re-use your bags each time you shop. It really isn't that uncommon. Originally Posted by Ducky
I think walmart is taking up the slack, I honestly think I got 10 bags for the little bit of stuff I got today. Frankly I hate trying to get rid of all the damn things, but I do use them for mini trash bags and for disposing of cat litter. And Gozzy, it's not that uncommon for people to bring their own.
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Originally Posted by gozling
Hahaha!
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03-28-07, 04:37 PM #14
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ANd I bet Goz shops at that newfangled Whole Foods and has a hemp wallet and a pair of Birkenstocks {ok not really Birks} and has a BIG OLE PEACE sign on her VW Bug...
Jus kiddin.
The Libs in SAN FRAN FREAKO should just rot in hell. Next their going to ban trans fatty acids. OH WAIT, NY CITY already did that
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Originally Posted by gozling
Be afraid, BE VERY AFRAID...
kidding againA monday morning lunatic, disturbed from time to time. Temporary catatonic madman on occasion..
Lightning crashes a new mother cries, her placenta falls to the floor. The angel opens her eyes,the confusion sets in before the doctor can even close the door..
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03-28-07, 04:40 PM #16
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Originally Posted by E-man
ANd I bet Goz shops at that newfangled Whole Foods and has a hemp wallet and a pair of Birkenstocks {ok not really Birks} and has a BIG OLE PEACE sign on her VW Bug...
: sad thing is I do shop at whole foods for lots of things LOL... I have a pair of Birks that I wear riding my bike on the broadwalk here at the beach while I blow bubbles at people... and I have a Hemp necklace that my friend gave to me 
hee hee...parents owned a vw bug.. and were WICKED hippies...
I am like a hippie in cops clothing without tons of the liberal bullshithttp://www.allpoetry.com/Grunts%20Girl
We dallied under
Vine maples and sapling alders
Searched for lady slippers
But instead
Found blackberry riots and
Desiccated branches
An old skid road
Brought ghost ferns and
Hollows filled with
Skunk cabbage
While waves wrapped
Intricate lacings of weeds
'Round mule spinners
His cyanotic eyes
Were hard enough to make
The sun turn tail and
Tender enough to attract me
To his world of illusion
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03-28-07, 04:49 PM #17
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Originally Posted by gozling
The best kind...A monday morning lunatic, disturbed from time to time. Temporary catatonic madman on occasion..
Lightning crashes a new mother cries, her placenta falls to the floor. The angel opens her eyes,the confusion sets in before the doctor can even close the door..
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03-28-07, 05:09 PM #18
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And for that you get green peace hugs from the resident hippie in non-cops clothing with tons of the liberal bullshit! I knew we were kindred spirits! Originally Posted by gozling
sad thing is I do shop at whole foods for lots of things LOL... I have a pair of Birks that I wear riding my bike on the broadwalk here at the beach while I blow bubbles at people... and I have a Hemp necklace that my friend gave to me
hee hee...parents owned a vw bug.. and were WICKED hippies...
I am like a hippie in cops clothing without tons of the liberal bullshit 
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03-28-07, 05:33 PM #19
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Originally Posted by Jenna
And for that you get green peace hugs from the resident hippie in non-cops clothing with tons of the liberal bullshit! I knew we were kindred spirits! so why cant you be more like me since I am sorta like you?
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We dallied under
Vine maples and sapling alders
Searched for lady slippers
But instead
Found blackberry riots and
Desiccated branches
An old skid road
Brought ghost ferns and
Hollows filled with
Skunk cabbage
While waves wrapped
Intricate lacings of weeds
'Round mule spinners
His cyanotic eyes
Were hard enough to make
The sun turn tail and
Tender enough to attract me
To his world of illusion
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Every now and then I'll still get something shipped in those biodegradable packing peanuts, but its rare. When they first came out Apple Computer jumped on board, packed everything in them...plastic bags made of corn byproducts are a relatively new, expensive and untested product.
...and ended up with thousands of computers covered in goop. Seems the original ones would break down even in humid weather.
I can imagine the same happening with these bags. Parking lots littered with goods on rainy days, car seats covered in bioslime.
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