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    Anybody else research shipwrecks?

    One of my favorites is the Empress of Ireland with the SS Milwaukee in close second.
    Just wondering if there is anyone else who enjoys researching these?

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    I find them interesting, the one that I find most interesting is the Edmund Fitzgerald, probably because I lived in Michigan at the time and vaguely remember when it happened.




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    Quote Originally Posted by countybear View Post
    Only those I can dive on.
    Which ones have you dived on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post
    I find them interesting, the one that I find most interesting is the Edmund Fitzgerald, probably because I lived in Michigan at the time and vaguely remember when it happened.
    I bought a book from a seller on Amazon called Wrecks of the Great Lakes. When it arrived I noticed that it had a different cover than the one on Amazon. It was an older edition published 2 months before the Fitz went down. I yelled at them for a while since the new edition has a whole chapter on the Fitz which was part of the reason I bought it! I never ordered from them again. On a happy note, I got the last chapter electronically by purchasing the ebook version for 3.99.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacopnewbie View Post
    I bought a book from a seller on Amazon called Wrecks of the Great Lakes. When it arrived I noticed that it had a different cover than the one on Amazon. It was an older edition published 2 months before the Fitz went down. I yelled at them for a while since the new edition has a whole chapter on the Fitz which was part of the reason I bought it! I never ordered from them again. On a happy note, I got the last chapter electronically by purchasing the ebook version for 3.99.

    An anchor from that ship is on display at the Dossin Great Lakes Museum in Detroit, along with articles from other shipwrecks as well and almost the entire "great room," I believe from a luxury liner that was built around the same time as the Titanic (I think) and designed for passenger cruises on the Great Lakes. I don't believed it wrecked, I think it was just taken out of commission but it's spectacular. I've heard a fascinating secondhand personal account of the Lusitania from a friend who's grandmother was a survivor, and had a wonderful opportunity earlier this year to talk with a Pearl Harbor survivor during my visit to Hawaii.

    I've also seen the Titanic exhibit with artifacts from the ship, and if you haven't seen it - in the beginning they give you a passenger card with the name, etc., of an actual passenger on the ship. Then at the end, you can check and see if your passenger survived or not. I kind of think that they should have left everything where it was.




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    Last month I visited Whitefish Point in the Upper Peninsula of MI, home of the Great Lakes Shipwreck museum. Also it's a point in Lake Superior that has had like a gazillion Great Lakes shipwrecks. Pretty much a place I would not be taking my boat. It was pretty interesting.










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    Those are great pics Autumn, especially of the restored bell. If I find myself in that part of Michigan I'd love to visit that museum. From what I understand you're absolutely right about all the shipwrecks in the Great Lakes.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post
    Those are great pics Autumn, especially of the restored bell. If I find myself in that part of Michigan I'd love to visit that museum. From what I understand you're absolutely right about all the shipwrecks in the Great Lakes.
    From reading most of the write ups in the Museum half of the shipwrecks were caused by Canadian ships running into people. Damn Canadians.

    Also if you ever just find yourself in that part of Michigan you have bigger problems on your hands. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autumn2009 View Post
    From reading most of the write ups in the Museum half of the shipwrecks were caused by Canadian ships running into people. Damn Canadians.

    Also if you ever just find yourself in that part of Michigan you have bigger problems on your hands. Lol.
    Yeah! Damn Canadians!

    You'd be surprised at some of the places I've found myself.

    I've spent time in Houghton, been to the Keweenaw National Park, Sault Ste. Marie, and have taken that horrid boat ride to see the Pictured Rocks. I'd like to go back to Mackinac at some point, and that museum is maybe a couple of hours away from there, isn't it? I'm not really sure.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post
    Yeah! Damn Canadians!

    You'd be surprised at some of the places I've found myself.

    I've spent time in Houghton, been to the Keweenaw National Park, Sault Ste. Marie, and have taken that horrid boat ride to see the Pictured Rocks. I'd like to go back to Mackinac at some point, and that museum is maybe a couple of hours away from there, isn't it? I'm not really sure.
    Yeah, it's only about an hour from Mac in the BFE of the BFE of the middle of no where.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autumn2009 View Post
    Yeah, it's only about an hour from Mac in the BFE of the BFE of the middle of no where.
    Ok, I'll meet you there. With brownies.

    Now back to topic, did they have artifacts from any other shipwrecks?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post
    Ok, I'll meet you there. With brownies.

    Now back to topic, did they have artifacts from any other shipwrecks?
    Yeah they had a whole crap load of other stuff from other shipwrecks.
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    A lot of the wrecks on the Great Lakes are from storms or collisions-though not always from Canadians. Operating a ship on the Lakes and operating one on the ocean are two different animals so its no surprise that the ocean going ships caused lots of collisions

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    Thanks for the pics Autumn. I would love to go to the Great Lakes museum. Couple other places too. They have a ship that is much like the Empress of Ireland was, just about 3/4 of her size. They also have another ship like SS Milwaukee that you can see. Its still outfited to ferry train cars across the lakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacopnewbie View Post
    A lot of the wrecks on the Great Lakes are from storms or collisions-though not always from Canadians. Operating a ship on the Lakes and operating one on the ocean are two different animals so its no surprise that the ocean going ships caused lots of collisions
    No no, it's the Canadians, they cause the weather too, don't you know that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacopnewbie View Post
    A lot of the wrecks on the Great Lakes are from storms or collisions-though not always from Canadians. Operating a ship on the Lakes and operating one on the ocean are two different animals so its no surprise that the ocean going ships caused lots of collisions
    Sigh....of COURSE it's the Canadians.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wacopnewbie View Post
    Which ones have you dived on?
    So far, The Black Bart, Bibb and Duane, U.S.S. Strength, The Spiegel Grove, and the "Thunderball" wreck. I am hoping to get down to diving the U.S.S. Oriskany soon, though. Once I retire, I am hoping to dive Truk Lagoon.

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