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Thread: Immigration 101 for Dummies.
10-28-08, 02:21 PM #1
Immigration 101 for Dummies.
Mind you, BIG is not an immigration attorney, nor does he claim to be an immigration expert. He has however, utilized and applied immigration law, both the administrative side and criminal side, for the last soon to be 14 years. If there are others on the board, who may answer these questions just as accurately, if not more accurately than BIG and BIG will gladly bow to their expertise.
BIG received a PM from an esteemed member, who posed a few immigration related questions to BIG. These questions were brought about due to the lawsuits concerning Senator Obama's citizenship. BIG figured he'd post the questions publicly, instead of PM, accompanied by the appropriate answers here for all of the OR public to see.
My grasp at u.s. citizenship is you are born here than you are a citizen.
An illegal give birth here and that kid is a citizen and parent stays.
Marry a citizen and stay in the country.
Come here through embassy or consulate and go through the motions and get citizenship.
A u.s. citizen gives birth lets say in mexico, then the kid wouldn't be a citizen of mexico?
The formality of going to a consulate or embassy doesn't have to be reached to have the kid be a us citizen?
The argument against obama is his school records show he's a citizen of indonesia, wouldn't he have to go through the embassy or consulate or immigration when he gets back to the u.s. and get u.s. citizenship?
Born in hawaii doesn't add up according to Berg and it is true that one of obama's parents is a u.s. citizen but he doesn't want to reveal the actual certificate.
But since both of Senator McCains parents are/were USC's he derived it, regardless of what territory he was born. be it Panama, China or Indonesia.
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10-28-08, 02:41 PM #2
There are a couple of law suites over this and one was just thrown out but I'm not sure why. The Govenor of Hawaii has sealed records and won't release them unless Obama requests them which he won't and the media ignors it.
10-28-08, 03:24 PM #3
i think i was better off not knowing all of that, because now i'm more confused than before =/
clear as mud is about right-=Twan007
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10-28-08, 03:38 PM #4
RYAN appreciates the information and the time it took you to post that. Very informative"The inherent vice of Capitalism is the unequal sharing of its blessings; the inherent vice of Socialism is the equal sharing of its miseries." -Winston Churchill
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10-28-08, 04:27 PM #7
My parents are citizens and were in Japan working and living when I was born. My birth certificate was issued by the State Department. I am not a dual citizen with Japan. US only.Pleasing nobody, one person at a time.
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10-28-08, 06:22 PM #8
I don't see where the turmoil really is, in that Obama's mother was a citizen of the US, regardless of who his father was, he still inherits that birthright. So, why has he refused to allow a release of that original birth certificate? What could we be missing here?
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10-28-08, 11:06 PM #11
He should run for President there.SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM-Ex-Sheriff Martin Howe to Will Kane in "High Noon"
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10-28-08, 11:07 PM #12
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