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    Opinion - Toyota Matrix or Honda Fit?

    Looks like I will have to be buying a new car this year, I was thinking of getting another small SUV but it appears the ones I am interested in are not so small and it would be a tight fit in my garage. (Toyota RAV4, Honda CRV & Subaru Forester are 181.9", 176" & 179.5" in length, my garage is 180" long)

    So I had to rethink my purchase and go with a smaller vehicle, both for the sake of the vehicle and the garage, (I have already had several mishaps with my current vehicle). The other good thing both vehicles cost less then the SUV's. I plan on test driving the Honda Fit and the Toyota Matrix. Anyone ever drive these or been in one? They both have decent ratings with Consumer Reports and a few other sites. They are fairly similar, the Fit is more compact and is a hatch back, the Matrix a wagon. Your insight and opinions would be appreciated! Thanks!

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    My mom has the Jazz, which is the European counterpart of the Fit. Great little car, and lieflat seats gives you a lot of interior room. I was baffled with the stuff I was able to fit in there.

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    Just so you know, Pontiac has a version of the Matrix. They call it a Vibe. They appear to be pretty much the same car except for badges and such. The Pontiac may even be a pinch cheaper. Good Luck with whichever you choose.

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    The Matrix/Vibe is an excellent car. I believe that they can also be ordered with AWD.
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    Since GM is going to kill off Pontiac, you are in line to score a better deal on the Pontiac.
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    Keep in mind that GM has announced it is dropping the Pontiac line. Dont know what this will mean for cars being sold.
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    Thanks for the responses. I read that the Vibe and the Fit are sister cars but I am not sure I like the idea of buying a car from a company going out of business. Not to mention quality of labor those poor workers who are on the brink of losing their lively hoods, but also for he fact of getting parts in the long run for the car. There are auto places in S. Bronx that make autoparts for discontinued vehicles but that could get costly. What ever car I buy I plan on keeping for it's life. As patriotic as I am, sadly I am sticking to the Toyota or Honda because I feel the quality is better made and it reflects in the ratings as well. We are probably going to go to the dealers today to look, something I dread doing, have no patience for some pushy sales person. Once I see the car I like I may buy online or use the Costco Auto Program thru a dealer. Unless the dealer has some good deals but that is doubtful, Toyota and Honda do not budge so much, especially for the more economical vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Blue 4 U View Post
    Thanks for the responses. I read that the Vibe and the Matrix are sister cars but I am not sure I like the idea of buying a car from a company going out of business. Not to mention quality of labor those poor workers who are on the brink of losing their lively hoods, but also for he fact of getting parts in the long run for the car. There are auto places in S. Bronx that make auto parts for discontinued vehicles but that could get costly. What ever car I buy I plan on keeping for it's life. As patriotic as I am, sadly I am sticking to the Toyota or Honda because I feel the quality is better made and it reflects in the ratings as well. We are probably going to go to the dealers today to look, something I dread doing, have no patience for some pushy sales person. Once I see the car I like I may buy online or use the Costco Auto Program thru a dealer. Unless the dealer has some good deals but that is doubtful, Toyota and Honda do not budge so much, especially for the more economical vehicles.

    Thanks again for your info and opinions, much appreciated!
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    Mechanically, you shouldn't have any problems with the Vibe as the Matrix and the Vibe share the same Toyota drivetrain. Body-wise is another story. Though similar looking, the Vibe uses its own sheet metal. Also they are built at different plants with the Vibe being built at the NUMMI Fremont, CA plant and the Matrix is built by Toyota at Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. Because the Matrix/Vibe is a joint venture between Toyota and GM, the Vibe may show up under one of GM's surviving nameplates. Most likely Chevrolet, in my opinion.

    But who knows with GM and Chrysler looking for bailout money, what may be in store for the future of US auto manufacturers.

    Toyota Matrix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    The Toyota Matrix, occasionally referred to as the Toyota Corolla Matrix, is a compact hatchback manufactured by the Toyota Motor Corporation in Cambridge, Ontario, Canada, to be sold in both the United States and Canada. It's considered to be the sporty hatchback/wagon counterpart of the North American Corolla.

    The Matrix is the Toyota version of a joint venture between Toyota and General Motors; the GM version being the Pontiac Vibe, which is assembled by New United Motor Manufacturing, Inc. (NUMMI) in Fremont, California.
    The Pontiac Vibe is a compact hatchback car produced in Fremont, California, in the United States by NUMMI (New United Motor Manufacturing, Inc), a joint venture between General Motors and Toyota, and marketed under General Motors' Pontiac brand.

    Despite the shrinking of the Pontiac brand, the Vibe is expected to remain in production into the forseeable future. If Pontiac would be discontiued, the Vibe would most likely reappear under one of GM's surviving brands.


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    if youre gonna get a wagon id suggest a subaru legacy. standard all wheel drive and that thing will run for 10 years easy and all youll have to do is change the oil
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    Thanks for the info CTR Man and the correction of the Fit to the Matrix for the sister car of the Vibe. A friend of mine bought a Chevy that was a sister car of a Honda, small sized sedan, engines were the same, the rest of the car made at their own plants. My friends car did not hold up to time and their biggest regret was not going with the Honda. That comes to mind when I think of the Vibe.

    Regardless, I test drove both and am leaning towards the Fit, it is not only more affordable but it seemed more roomier and the visibility was much better then the Matrix. The Matrix interior sort of reminds me of my current RAV4, but with a more cock pit style set up, quite claustraphobic if you ask me. Also did not like the way the rear window is set up, looking in the rear view mirror seems as if you are looking out of a tunnel, plenty of blind spots. I see it posing a problem with parking the damn thing. The Fit, small compact piece of cake to park.

    Both rode about the same, the one thing I did not like about the Fit was the huge windshield and deep dashboard, guess I could get used to that. My husband did not like the Matrix at all, the ride, the dashboard, he said he could not get out of the thing fast enough. LOL!!


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    if youre gonna get a wagon id suggest a subaru legacy. standard all wheel drive and that thing will run for 10 years easy and all youll have to do is change the oil

    Thanks I did consider a Subaru but they are a bit more then what I can spend right now. Plus the the Outback wagon is 189" long, the legacy sedan is 180" long the same as my garage, so neither will work.

    If the car makers would keep their small SUV's small I would have more of a choice, so until they downsize I will have to go with a smaller car. I would keep my 98 RAV4 but it is starting to have some serious issues, one being oil on one of the spark plugs. I could probably sink money into it but I don't want the headaches, I have been there before.

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    What you need is a crew cab 4X4 pickup with dual wheels and a large diesel motor It will last longer then those other cars plus run them over and then haul them away
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    Unsure if you're interested in a car car, but the Scion TC is a pretty sharp ride and has common looks as a BMW. Scion is a sub-company under Toyota. Toyota wont be going anywhere and IF (no plans to) they dropped the Scion line, it'll be backed by Toyota.

    I'm not a fan of the Fit so I'd go with the Matrix. Better style. Everything else is nearly comparable to the Fit.
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    Sounds like you have made your decision.

    Can't have claustrophobic in a car. If your garage is on the small side then I could see where you might have problems with the Matrix. There seems to be a heck of a blind spot between the rear and side windows. You don't need that when backing out of a tight garage or parallel parking or when passing either. I used to have a 2005 Ford Focus wagon but that model was discontinued for the 2006 model year. It was great on visibility, but still I think that particular car would be too long for your needs. They phased that car out in favor of the Edge. Again, too big for your garage. The current sedans are ok but still not sure on the length.

    My first car was a 1970 Ford Mustang fastback. Talk about looking through a mail slot when putting the car into reverse. The rear window was large but canted at such an angle that it made backing up almost next to impossible. Especially with the smallish side view mirrors that they had back then. I remember having to actually open the door to see where I was backing. But of course, I was in High School back then and such things were not important. Makes me wonder about those that choose to drive some of the high priced exotics that they have out now. They must park in places where they don't have to worry about backing or have spotters or something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by adamdude04 View Post
    Unsure if you're interested in a car car, but the Scion TC is a pretty sharp ride and has common looks as a BMW. Scion is a sub-company under Toyota. Toyota wont be going anywhere and IF (no plans to) they dropped the Scion line, it'll be backed by Toyota.

    I'm not a fan of the Fit so I'd go with the Matrix. Better style. Everything else is nearly comparable to the Fit.
    You are right, The Fit would be just a car to scoot around in, nothing impressive, just practical.


    Funny you should say that about the Scion, the Salesman said the same exact thing after I told him I just test drove the Fit. He recommends I check out the XD, instead of the Fit. There was a TC on the floor at the dealership today,nice looking but too low for me. I am looking for something that you sit higher off the floor, actually the Scion XB would work for me, very close to what I have now, I am not sure I like the looks of it though, very boxy, There were none on the lot to look at, they are kept at their other location, which was closed today. (Also no access to test driving one) The Scions are all inclusive, fixed priced and all models seem fairly reasonable. Maybe I will hold off on my decision until I get to see one and test drive it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Blue 4 U View Post
    You are right, The Fit would be just a car to scoot around in, nothing impressive, just practical.


    Funny you should say that about the Scion, the Salesman said the same exact thing after I told him I just test drove the Fit. He recommends I check out the XD, instead of the Fit. There was a TC on the floor at the dealership today,nice looking but too low for me. I am looking for something that you sit higher off the floor, actually the Scion XB would work for me, very close to what I have now, I am not sure I like the looks of it though, very boxy, There were none on the lot to look at, they are kept at their other location, which was closed today. (Also no access to test driving one) The Scions are all inclusive, fixed priced and all models seem fairly reasonable. Maybe I will hold off on my decision until I get to see one and test drive it.
    Yeah see I didn't know if youw ere lookin for a car or something a lil higher up like you mention before. Yeah the XB is kinda boxy looking for sure. They call it, the "lunch box" lol

    But man them suckers have a lot of room!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgg View Post
    What you need is a crew cab 4X4 pickup with dual wheels and a large diesel motor It will last longer then those other cars plus run them over and then haul them away
    Tractor pulls anyone?

    You're too funny, 2blue4U is a city girl and uses her garage to house her car. Plus, I showed you where to go when you need to purchase your next truck. Yeah, I know you need to find a rich woman so you can have your toys, aren't there any available nurses up your way? I would think that you would have some scoped out by now.


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    What you need is a crew cab 4X4 pickup with dual wheels and a large diesel motor It will last longer then those other cars plus run them over and then haul them away
    With my limited patience on the road a truck would be too dangerous, for the others on the road anyway. Hubby did suggest that I check out the Mini cooper, the first thing that came to my mind was a ride under tractor trailer car. No thank you! We have limited parking where I live, I park in the garage, he parks his Tundra on the street, it does not fit into our garage. Maybe I should make him get ride of this tundra so I could get the SUV I really want, but then again, he never would and I can't really afford that SUV right now anyway. Need to play lotto!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTR man View Post
    Just so you know, Pontiac has a version of the Matrix. They call it a Vibe. They appear to be pretty much the same car except for badges and such. The Pontiac may even be a pinch cheaper. Good Luck with whichever you choose.

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    I drove a Vibe as a rental a while back; it wasn't a bad car, fair amount of room.

    My mom has a Fit; she likes it a lot.

    (Of course, with two people mentioning their mothers having the Fit... that might make your decision.)
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    How about a small SUV like the Ford Escape? Keep the one American company to tell Obama to shove it in business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChesCopPodz View Post
    How about a small SUV like the Ford Escape? Keep the one American company to tell Obama to shove it in business.
    Even the Escape that would be cutting it close and be a tight fit in my garage. When the small SUV's first came out, they were true to their name, Small. For some reason the car companies felt all americans want bigger cars, so every single one enlarged their small SUV's, some several inches others over a foot. Stinks for a person like me who has limited street parking and a small garage.

    As far as telling Obama to shove it, would love to, but as far as the American Car Companies go and the trouble they are is a reflection of themselves in the way they run the company and the product they put out. They have been competing with the foriegn car industry for years, they did up their quality a bit but are still lacking in many aspects. At least some of the foreign cars are made in the USA, employing Americans. Not sure how true it is but I have also been told that some of the Fords are made in Mexico and GM in Canada.

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