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11-29-09, 04:18 PM #1
Remember my brothers, you are hated.
The responses to the news story regarding four police officers killed in WA sound an alarm that should awaken the consciousness of every street officer. You, my brothers are hated. Let there be no doubt in your mind that the very evil you are sworn to fight has, does, and will in the future strike, strike first, and with a definitive and horrible intent. It breeds more hatred, like a rapidly spreading malady, from even seemingly innocuous sources, and pervades in the darkness of those who treat the blessed liberties of our society as entitlements, freely given, and not earned by the blood of our patriots, heroes, and the legacy of those law enforcement officers who have died defending them.
You, my brothers, are hated. You represent the State, the establishment, and a barrier to those who yearn for chaos and disorder. Merchants of death and hell, dealers of all means of self-imposed destruction, predators of our innocence... all despise you.Brenda: Four more hits for the home team!!! I am very hesitant 2 shed tears for police, sadly cuz they R dirty and act above the law when they want to commit criminal acts against us and cover the blue code!!! so again 4 hits for the home team.
You, my brothers, are hated. You possess the authority, granted to you by your government, to effect a positive change in your communities, yet you are hampered by that very same system. You bear the blame to the public, you are considered the root of all failures because so few of them see or are informed of the frustrations you feel. Because you have failed in your ability to draw the lines, point the fingers, because of the perishable nature of your careers, you take that blame and very rarely place it where it belongs; at least not publicly. Your honor prevents it. You simply do not whine. Yet when you, or a member of our society is viciously attacked, it is always the tools, the guns, and the cops, that take the hit on the chin, and not the system charged with truly securing our safety over the long-term...davec: You want to feel bad for them however most cops I encounterd
latley are not here to potect and serve us at all ,They are harrasing intimidating nasty brain washed cops almost like they all belong to a private cult, Its still a sad day for the loss of there life
You, my brothers, are hated. You carry the faith of the people, yet not their love nor admiration. You bear the burden, and share none of the reward. You dearly embrace peace; yet must, for your own life, prepare for war. You cannot relax, nor become complacent, because the enemy is everywhere; around every corner, and behind every wall. He walks behind you, stands in front of you, and watches your every move. His fondest wish is nothing more than your slow, painful death. He is prepared, are you?MouthofWar: 4 cops that can't violate Americans Civil Rights anymore...
4 down ! How many more to go?
ReallyS: That is the best news I heard in a while I hope the shooter kills more pigs I hope he lives a long life and happy life.You, my brothers, are hated. And let there be no equivocation; we are at war with the cowardly, the despicable, the self-indulgent, and the prophets of destruction in our world. You must discern the sheep from the wolves. You must be prepared, whevever necessary, to exact bold and terrifyingly swift violence to defend yourself from those who would kill you or those you are honorably sworn to protect. You cannot hesitate, you cannot falter, you cannot fail, or death will be your penalty.CopKilla: Oink, oink, baby! What’s that sound? The sound of four repugnant pigs squealing like little beyotches as they die without honor and with their pants down! Yeah! Truly, a great day in America when pigs aren’t just murdered, but when they’re murdered in groups! The only way this would’ve been more perfect is if the pigs would’ve been killed in a…wait for it…wait for it…DONUT SHOP! AHAHAHA! The fact that these dead, worthless pigs were actually congregating in a coffay shop drinking their lattes and probably surfing child porn sites confirms how lazy and cowardly pigs are. If they’re not beating up minorities, arresting teens on minor pot violations, or bullying men because their women made false complaints against them, pigs are totally impotent and sad sacks. Today, these four pigs clearly met their match, and the beautiful human being who decided to even up the score should be given a Congressional Medal of Honor! Clearly, just an honorable citizen fed up with pig maltreatment.
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11-29-09, 04:59 PM #2
Well said!
That which does not kill me, better start fucking running.
If I lived every day like it was my last, the body count would be staggering.
I intend to go in harm's way. -John Paul Jones
Hunt the wolf, and bring light to the dark places that others fear to go. LT COL Dave Grossman
I'd be a better people person if I was around better people.
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11-29-09, 05:23 PM #3
This always needs to be in your mind.
'Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a
delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly
promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely
possible to pick up a turd by the clean end!'
“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.” Sigmund Freud
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11-29-09, 06:07 PM #4
damn CB - got me feeling like a rookie first day of the academy again...
stay safe out there ya'll - it's gonna get a lot worse before it gets any better, that's for certain-=Twan007
Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious.

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11-29-09, 06:47 PM #5
Sad but true..sad but true.
Never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way" ~Martin Luther King, Jr
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11-29-09, 07:19 PM #6
Unfortunately CB you are right......very well put.
" The warrior who honors the shield says, WHEN it happens, I will be ready...." Lt. Col. Grossman (Live... 9-11-07)
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11-29-09, 10:25 PM #7
Watch your six.
Do not war for peace. If you must war, war for justice. For without justice there is no peace. -me
We are who we choose to be.
R.I.P. Arielle. 08/20/2010-09/16/2012

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11-30-09, 12:04 AM #8
Starting at post #8, yes we are hated:
http://www.seatstaysup.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=24322
Note, not everyone there has a case of justifying murder. We have some good people from there.
Meanwhile, fishing in Russia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkzV5AIK8iM
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." -- Frederic Bastiat
"Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else thereafter." Ernest Hemingway
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11-30-09, 12:29 AM #9
Well said, CB!
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11-30-09, 11:15 AM #10
Always has been a reality of the job. Nice post, CB.
SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM-Ex-Sheriff Martin Howe to Will Kane in "High Noon"
"It's a great life. You risk your skin catching killers and the juries turn them loose so they can come back and shoot at you again. If your honest , your poor your whole life. And , In the end , you wind up dying all alone on some dirty street. For what? For nothing. For a tin star."
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11-30-09, 05:48 PM #11
I enjoy reading countybear's posts, and find him to be as thoughtful about such things as anyone I know.
His writing style is enjoyable and his articles are always timed perfectly as a teaching point.
After sleeping on it some, I found a deep need to reply and point out a differing perspective.
It is entirely true that a percentage of the population hates us, and outright wishes us harm. It is entirely true that we need to take that to heart when we decide where to sit, or if we should feel safe in a coffee shop to the point where we let our guard down.
In this regard, as usual, countybear has eloquently turned a tragedy into a teaching point - and as a firearms and tactics instructor I say bravo, and well done.
I saw something else on the news here in the area....
There is a mound of flowers approaching the height of a tall man on the rock wall outside the Lakewood PD station.
I saw thousands of people standing along side highway 512 for the impromptu procession guarding the medical examiner vehicles as the four officers were carried away.
I heard the Lakewood Guild president decry the 5% who commit 95% of the mayhem, and saw commentator after commentator say things like "damn straight" and "how can this happen to OUR cops?"
I heard from citizen after citizen today and saw salutes and waves.
I saw fellow officers from damn near every agency in this State in that procession and at that crime scene.
We are hated, and we need to remember it.
We are also loved, and we need to make sure we don't forget it.
Why else would anyone take up the shield? There is no greater love than his that would lay down their life for their friends.

I'm your huckleberry...
Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentus telum est!
You can be the weapon, and the gun in your hand is a tool - or the gun is a weapon and you are the tool.
I was looking for a saint who was a devil of a lover,
but every girl I found was either one way or the other...

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11-30-09, 06:41 PM #12
Well said, Maclean and Countybear. You have to watch out for the few who hate you, but the vast majority of us love, respect, and are grateful to you.
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11-30-09, 06:55 PM #13
Wonderful posts, maclean and CB. Simply wonderful.

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11-30-09, 07:05 PM #14
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11-30-09, 08:33 PM #15
I am going to add a big + 1 here as I enjoy reading both of your posts. They are concise, to the point and offer great learning experiences if we are willing to just listen to what is being said.
Thank You so much MacLean for taking the time to point this out. There are many of us outside of LE in the general population who truly care about those of you in LE that are entrusted to protect us.
Reflecting upon my own LODD experiences in my area, I have often wondered how to show my support to those who were sorely in need of it. Through doing so, I have met some wonderful people connected to the LE profession. I, too, have gone to LE funerals and memorials, stood in processions, just to let you guys know that there is someone who does care about you and your families and the sacrifices you have made for us.
If I can show just one LEO that I care, then I have done my job. However, I choose to show as many as I can my support, then it is a job well done.
This is the main reason why I post here and I thank you all for allowing me to do so.
Choose The Right. When you're doing whats right, then you have nothing to worry about.
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In memory of Sgt. Howard K. Stevenson 1965 - 2005. Ceres Police Dept.
In memory of Robert N. Panos 1955 - 2008 Ceres Police Dept.

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11-30-09, 08:49 PM #16
Kudos to Both CountyBear and Maclean!
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11-30-09, 09:01 PM #17Swamp Mafia

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
~Edmond Burke
Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and like it, never really care for anything else.
~Ernest Hemingway
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11-30-09, 09:43 PM #18
It's a shame, but it's true. We are both hated and loved. The hate posts really bother me. They have to be from either of two groups of people; those that commit the crimes, or those that have never been violated by the criminals. If it's coming from a criminal, then that's cool, hate me. Cause I'm going to be the one that catches your sorry ass when you screw up. At that time you will have three choices, jail, hospital, or a grave. It will be your choice, not mine. If you are just someone that has never had anything bad happen to you or yours, then keep talking, because sooner or later it will. I'd like to read your post then.
To all LEO, remember that when you are in uniform, you are a target. It's easy to fall in that comfort zone, more so when you're together. Never be comfortable. Never feel safe. At the end of a shift, you should be mentally and physically exhausted from be on red alert for 11.42 hours. I think I said this once before and some didn't approve. We are in a war. The war against evil. We are in a combat zone, but it's different because we live in it also. We are here to serve. To protect. To be compassionate. But be prepared always. At dinner. Over coffee. When you stop for a bottled water, or a soda. There is no special time that it could happen. It just will. And you need to kill or die. You owe it to your family, your department, yourself. Don't die.
With that said; God bless those that have.The six o'clock ruleI tell them to act according to the six o'clock rule, a phrase that causes most of them to say, "Huh?"
I tell them to use this little test before they decide to do something. If they were to do what they're thinking about, and it became the lead story on the six o'clock news, would they be proud? Would their department be proud, and would their family be proud? It's a simple way to live your life both personally and professionally.
Bruce Thomason
"If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." Mark Twain
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11-30-09, 09:53 PM #19
I constantly search humanity for the good in people since I know it exists. I helps balance out the bad to some extent, or at least it did when I first started. Unfortunately the longer I stay in this job the more reclusive I become. I see it. I feel it. Stories such as this do not help.
I hear people say they support us from time to time and wonder is that for real or just until they get a ticket or have some other enforcement action taken. I have been officially referred to as a necessary evil, or something similar to that comparison, even by some of my own local governmental heads. However, I have come to feel a certain acceptance here from the civilian supporters and I thank you for that. That feeling right there is one of the reasons I will post in any other forum besides the verified section. In real life I find it hard, as most cops do, to associate at any length with civilians. Strange as it may seem I know that if something were to happen to me the larger civilian population of this site would feel remorse and more than likely offer some form of support to my family in their time of need. Some people here in my actual jurisidiction would throw a party.
I'd like to take just a moment during this incredible tragedy to temporarily turn a shadow back into the light. Thanks to all the true supporters here. Thanks for coming here and associating with "us". I don't know about anyone else but I know I can always come here and find some good and bring it back into my other world.Do not war for peace. If you must war, war for justice. For without justice there is no peace. -me
We are who we choose to be.
R.I.P. Arielle. 08/20/2010-09/16/2012

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11-30-09, 10:12 PM #20http://www.odmp.org/officer/16551-de...l-eron-shannon
Police Officers put themselves at risk for strangers every day. Some do not make it home to their families. Next time you think of saying something negative about the police, remember...YOU are one of the strangers.
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