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    What do you think of police using Tasers?



    What do you think about police using tasers?

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    I think that they are a very effective tool. This is why the taser has so many detractors because it is so damn effective. It is more effective than a baton, yet causes less damage than a baton. When "force" by the police is used correctly the amount used is directly tied to the amount of resistance encountered. Just something to think about.

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    Tasers are a lot safer for everyone involved than the alternatives. If they weren't relatively safe, they wouldn't be used on LEOs during training.

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    I just got shot with a Taser in training and issued one. I can't wait to send some douche on a lightning ride.
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    I think they're effective, but not terribly well constructed. I've broken 2, and have yet to tase anyone. I always to hands-on to fast then think "oh, yeah - I have a taser."
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    They seem to work. We tased two people tonight at work. Also tased three people in the previous two weeks.
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    I think they're safer for the officer than other alternatives in a situation that requires certain actions.




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    If was was resisting, I would rather get tased than get the snarf beat out of my legs and arms with an asp or other other baton. I think it's much safer for the officers involved too.
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    Take it from an old guy who left the street in 1986, who used a wooden hickory night stick and mace. I believe a taser has to be an excellent addition for officer safety and restraint of a perp. I never used one obviously, nor heard of one back in the dark ages. But, for an average size man like me, dealing with BIG BAD ASS perps, I would have welcomed a taser. I love it when I see a video of officers using a taser on cop-hating assholes. You guys are lucky to have one. Just don't abuse it. It may be taken away. Like wooden night sticks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANI4ANI View Post
    Take it from an old guy who left the street in 1986, who used a wooden hickory night stick and mace. I believe a taser has to be an excellent addition for officer safety and restraint of a perp. I never used one obviously, nor heard of one back in the dark ages. But, for an average size man like me, dealing with BIG BAD ASS perps, I would have welcomed a taser. I love it when I see a video of officers using a taser on cop-hating assholes. You guys are lucky to have one. Just don't abuse it. It may be taken away. Like wooden night sticks.
    Don't forget our Kel lights they were pretty effective too.

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    Wow I could really dive into this topic but I think it is better for me to ease into the water rather than jump in with two feet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    Wow I could really dive into this topic but I think it is better for me to ease into the water rather than jump in with two feet.


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    I don't want to come in your yard and start throwing stones. That is not the intention of my visit.


    I do not thing tasers themselves are bad. I think that they have their place in law enforcement. I do think that some cops and departments have become to Dependant on them. A taser is a tool and in my opinion is not a replacement for a cop to just take someone down and cuff them. I was at a bar in Chicago and there was two guys fighting pretty good. Two cops showed up and one shot a taser at a guy. The cop missed and the look on his face was like he was going to crap his pants. Luckily for that cop a few other squad cars were there within a minute to back him up. In my opinion when his taser failed he had no idea what to do.

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    Fair enough. We are not issued tasers, but we are issued two different batons. From having seen tasers and used the others, the taser is quicker and safer for all involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Five-0 View Post
    Fair enough. We are not issued tasers, but we are issued two different batons. From having seen tasers and used the others, the taser is quicker and safer for all involved.

    It may be quicker and safer but it is also the most overused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    It may be quicker and safer but it is also the most overused.
    What is your basis for that assertion?

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    Despite the snarkiness of my first post, I do agree with Sam.

    It drives me nuts when I read stories about cops Tasing children and old people, or armed subjects. Really? You can't use your hands to wrestle a 72 year old woman into handcuffs? This is the wrong career then.

    Someone holding a gun is not someone who should be Tased. Ever. That's just stupid. Even with lethal overwatch. Action is faster than reaction. If the Taser doesn't work and the suspect begins shooting you have to react to that to shoot back. Too late.

    That all being said, a lot of anti-Taser people don't understand the rules we follow for use of force and any Taser use is perceived as lethal force by them. You have to be careful about falling into that because the vast, VAST, majority of Taser use is justified legally. It is NOT lethal force and it is NOT overused very often.
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    A fantastic piece of kit.

    For us it is a most welcome addition although sadly is still only issued to a few of us who aren't also firearms officers.

    I have found that older officers are not as reliant on new "toys" as they are simply used to doing things other ways. When I first started I had a 12" piece of wood in my pocket (nudge , nudge, wink wink!)
    seriously thats all I had, not even a set of handcuffs. There was a set in each patrol car.

    Over the years things improved to a point where we ended up with metal expandable batons and CS spray. I found younger officers who grew up, so to speak, with baton and spray were far quicker to use them than older officers who were used to a more hands on approach.

    However since I've had taser(12 months) I have drawn it twice but never had to use it as both times the sight of it was enough( the first time the offenders didn't even speak English but certainly got the message)

    I think as more officers have taser and as more offenders get used to it you will see it used more often.
    That is what has historically happened with such kit, at least here.

    We're not allowed to use it to stop someone who is running away and its use here involves having to fill out a couple of forms, even if it is only drawn. It's fairly early days and a rollout to all oficers is umlikely in these current financial times. However I would say that it would pay for itself in terms of wasted time investigating excessive force complaints when someone has been struck with a baton or sprayed.

    But what price officer safety, apparently the cost of a taser!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
    Despite the snarkiness of my first post, I do agree with Sam.

    It drives me nuts when I read stories about cops Tasing children and old people, or armed subjects. Really? You can't use your hands to wrestle a 72 year old woman into handcuffs? This is the wrong career then.

    Someone holding a gun is not someone who should be Tased. Ever. That's just stupid. Even with lethal overwatch. Action is faster than reaction. If the Taser doesn't work and the suspect begins shooting you have to react to that to shoot back. Too late.

    That all being said, a lot of anti-Taser people don't understand the rules we follow for use of force and any Taser use is perceived as lethal force by them. You have to be careful about falling into that because the vast, VAST, majority of Taser use is justified legally. It is NOT lethal force and it is NOT overused very often.
    Please don't take me for the anti-Taser person. You have quoted exactally I was talking about with overuse. The 12 year old kid, the 72 year old woman there are many more like this and that to me is overuse and abuse! If there are 10 cops standing around and a 100 lb female is yelling at them taser should not be used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
    Someone holding a gun is not someone who should be Tased. Ever. That's just stupid.
    Amen.
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