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    Countybear Rants: Are We Serious?

    I love this country. We are one of the few nations in human history to validly claim the title “Global Superpower”. We've grown over the course of a comparatively short number of years from an oppressed collection of a few colonial settlements to a lofty position of world influence. We hold leadership roles financially, culturally, militarily, and technologically, but perhaps above all, we have furthered the cause of freedom. We truly are a shining beacon of light in the world when it comes to our role in civilization's standards of living and civil liberties. In our minds, all should live as we do. All should see things as we do. All should share our dream. Unfortunately, many do not, and it confuses us when we begin to realize that people of other nations often look upon us with contempt.


    A friend who spent quite a while overseas once said to me, “People here in America have no clue what motivates people abroad. They cannot understand how people think from the perspective of years of war, famine, political domination, or cultural adversity. Americans have no idea what it means to be truly oppressed by class strata, religious radicalism, terrorism, or military occupation.”


    He was right, of course, with one major exception. Americans do know what it is to be oppressed by the deviant factions of our own society. We do know what it means to fear one another. Now perhaps more than ever, American citizens know what it is to be victimized, and to feel helpless against an ever-abiding and ever-present evil within our own communities: crime.


    How is it, one must ask, that crime could become so prevalent in a society so capable? Historically, we have accepted challenges to our very existence, both internally and externally, and prevailed in spite of odds seemingly overwhelming. We overthrew a monarchy, when we faced invasion from external superpowers, a political division and resulting civil war, and still we prevailed as a nation. When fascism threatened to conquer the free world, we were instrumental in destroying its devices thousands of miles away from our own soil and denying its purveyors the opportunity to invade our shores. We have cast ourselves against tyranny, violence, and terror, and replied to every threat against us with decisive, terrible, and tenacious fortitude. Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto, following the attack at Pearl Harbor said, “I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant, and filled him with terrible resolve.” Our resolve was truly felt in a horrifying manner three and a half years later, when two entire cities in Japan were significantly vaporized by the only combative nuclear weapons release in military history. How did we achieve survival? Quite simply, we were serious about it. Our ability to prevail was due to the fact that we recognized the threat, and responded to it with gravity, a singularity of mind and purpose.


    How then, can we as a country not respond to the domestic threat that crime poses at home? How can we not be serious about the survival of our liberties in the face of homegrown evil? How can our system of government not respect its own laws to the extent that it simply refuses to adequately enforce them? What tolerance can be expected by the people who continue to be victimized for a government's failure to effectively provide one of the very core and essential services that define its very purpose? How long will our governments, both State and Federal, fail so miserably to provide for the common defense at home, so that the general welfare can again be realized?


    Our government leadership is simply not serious about public safety, and those who indeed are serious about it are finding themselves powerless against the apathy, bureaucracy, and inefficacy of a system once designed to provide for justice, now seemingly pronounced just us. Have civil liberties in this nation become so far extended to the deviant that the compliant are not only victims of the predatory, but also of a system so arrogantly off-track that it supports the offender, rather than protects the innocent? In short, yes. Who do we have to blame? Ourselves. Any wonder why other countries view us as decadent? We lack self-control, and that (as much as anything else) means we apparently lack the ability (read into this; resolve) to control the corrupt factions of our own society.


    We have lawmakers who brazenly and publicly call illegally-present felons “patriots”, and elect presidents who callously admit to their commission of crimes. We re-elect corrupt officials, even when under indictment. We demand accountability by some, and excuse others for the purposes of our own profit and advancement. Risk of death is a considered a cost of doing business. We have exceeded complacency (unless ourselves or a loved one is affected). Although we hear the words “the killer had a lengthy criminal record...” so often it should be coined as a household phrase, we go about our American dream intentionally oblivious of the nightmare that our inattention to the rights of the exploited has wrought. We feel for the offenders, their poor socioeconomic environment and subjective mental incapacity bearing the blame for their choice to kill, maim, and prey. We are reactionary, not proactive. We are so bombarded by the tales of horror befalling the faceless that we have lost our empathy in all cases except the truly shocking, which in turn, will before long be replaced in its shock value by something even more shocking.


    Another kid dead? Two? Three? Four? Ah, well. What a shame. What did the stock market do? Another kidnapping? Rape? Put the face on a milk carton and maybe we'll see it over breakfast. Maybe not. School teachers and priests molesting youngsters? Terrible... who got voted off of Big Brother? The overburdening of our sensibilities has led to an existence devoid of concern, indignation, and reverence for order, justice, and peace. Our heads firmly remain buried in the sand, and our rose-colored glasses have taken on the tint of blindness. We do not want to be bothered, refuse to get involved, and demand only that our individual lives be insulated, yet entertained. Somewhere stuck back in page 14F of our newspapers there is a story about lawmakers diligently seeking to curb incarceration costs by inventing innovative programs to release inmates back into society. Nowhere in that article do we see recidivism rates (which hover around the 69% mark, varying slightly by type of crime).

    We watch as our youth are enticed, exploited, and corrupted. Not my kid. We marvel at ignorance. Amusing. We reject decency. There's more to the story. We have abandoned common sense. Its not their fault. Perhaps worst of all, we refuse to hold accountable those responsible for meting the justice, safeguarding the rights of the law-abiding, and enforcing true equality in our society. We have grown so aware of the world (but only from our limited perception of it) that we are ignorant of what it takes to secure it, both at home and abroad. It takes gravity, singularity of mind, and purpose. It requires that we care for one another in fact and deed, sufficiently to provoke outrage when we see oppression, tyranny, corruption, and exploitation; and even when we are not personally affected. We enact law after law, yet refuse to demand them enforced, and that those breaking them suffer severe penalty. At some point we must realize what has been known over centuries: that in order to preserve what is right and good, we must stand against those who are wrong and bad. Yes, there are bad people. We have to care about them too, enough to see to it that they are contained and actually punished to deter them from getting worse. Above all, public safety must be our commitment, not a revenue generator. If we care, we must act. If we act, we must act with the same resolve, determination, and purpose that wins wars, even at the expense of temporary peace.


    We love terms like “war on crime”, “war on drugs”, we think “task forces” are just plain cool, and we adore “initiatives”. America just loves an “initiative”... that means we are doing something about it, right? Initiatives, wars, and task forces really mean that we are throwing money around. The results of these “wars” and “initiatives” generally are non-productive, especially if there is no accountability in the entities charged with actually prosecuting and adjudicating the cases produced. Since when is a war fought by “just say(ing) no?” If we have the power since 1945 to blow up entire cities, how is it we cannot seem to secure the borders and eradicate drug importation? If we have had the ability to put a man on the moon since 1969, how is it we cannot seem to keep a murderer locked up here on Earth? Truth is we can, and we always could. What is missing is the will, the demand, the accountability, and most especially, our own resolve. Are we serious? No. If we were, we would not tolerate catch and release; we would not even grant the opportunity for recidivism.


    A war is just that... a war. You fight it, not tolerate it. You draw the line, and you accept no excuses. It is time to get serious.


    “America is great because she is good. If America ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great.” - Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America, 1835.
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    Thank you CB. Now this is what I was waiting for. An exemplary writing and I couldn't be in more agreement.

    Our government leadership is simply not serious about public safety,
    Are we serious? No. If we were, we would not tolerate...
    Unbelievably correct. God help us.


    We have abandoned common sense.
    Yes "we" have. "We" have turned away from commonsense in lieu of position, power, money, and corruption in general. If "we" do not cater to the whims of the general public the general public have and will elect so called "custodians of justice" that will. The custodians must cater to those whims or risk not being re elected. I once heard a mouthful of crap. "I do what I do so I can keep getting re elected." "I do a good job but I have to compromise somethings in order to do the greater good." "Because if I don't do it someone else will." *spit*
    The drums of the above rant cannot be beaten enough. The message cannot be passed on enough for whatever good it will do.

    If we were, we would not tolerate catch and release; we would not even grant the opportunity for recidivism.
    Now this is a language I understand.


    A thanks also to Five-0 for providing the following quote because a truer statement I may not have read.
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    + 1 To CB and Lew.

    Articulation.
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    In this new era of civility (or have the Kardashians done something to bump 'civility' off the news and out of the public conscience?) I'm not sure if I'd doing Claire Wolfe a credit or disservice for the original credit on the "awkward stage" quote. Shoot, I don't know. "shoot"! Well darn, guess I need more civility training.

    America just loves an “initiative”... that means we are doing something about it, right?
    Often doing nothing is the right thing. Unless they have golden radio voices nobody wants beggars in the street. Nature has a recourse for that - harsh though it is, have public welfare "initiatives" improved things for those so afflicted or worsened their state? How about everyone else?

    Society, through their elected government, stepped in and declared a "war on poverty". So well intentioned and so disastrous and threatening to that very society. Is it any wonder the mother of a killer is shameless in crying out her baby boy wasn't responsible when responsibility has been removed from every aspect of her life? Is it any wonder she, and those with her limited view vote for those who promise more of the same? It is any wonder this cancerous vision of democracy grows within while we debate promoting democracy without?

    I applaud the /rant above, and I'm one guilty of only knowing America from my domestic perspective. I only know what motivates people abroad from what I read in their news and get glimpses from in their story telling as I read novels. I have to admit the same lack of first person knowledge of our welfare state. But I get a lot more accounts of the latter in higher detail. It seems to me that while being tough on criminals we need to stop feeding the farm system that fosters so many of them. I'm all for locking up criminals, and keeping them locked up - let's stop funding the creation of them too. Thank you PBS, for showing me how bad slums are - now let's use your federal funding to bulldoze some of these domestic shelter projects your network promoted building.

    Probably I'm being mean spirited for suggesting cutting off both the tail and heads of this hydra. Uncivil I am.

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    As always, excellent job. You sir, have a way with words.
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    we need to stop feeding the farm system that fosters so many of them. I'm all for locking up criminals, and keeping them locked up - let's stop funding the creation of them too.
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    Thank you all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Odd View Post
    ...Often doing nothing is the right thing. Unless they have golden radio voices nobody wants beggars in the street. Nature has a recourse for that - harsh though it is, have public welfare "initiatives" improved things for those so afflicted or worsened their state? How about everyone else?
    Odd, you make some very valid points here. I'm in agreement. I'll add too, that I believe the "systems" in place currently do absolutely nothing to foster self-sufficiency, but instead create dependence. Although I'd love to be naive enough to say they were given under pure intentions, I will admit that I have personally referred to many entitlement programs as "the great American vote-buy". For example, especially in later years under liberal social doctrine, the creation of a tax structure actually providing windfalls for those who already have absolute exemption from payment of taxes due to insufficient income levels, then making these "credits" refundable to persons already recieving copious amounts of public "assistance", very much contributes to the entitlement mentality and wanton irresponsibility that currently burdens the system and the contributors who are saddled with supporting it. Such creates animosity between various socioeconomic levels, and toward the system itself.

    Society, through their elected government, stepped in and declared a "war on poverty". So well intentioned and so disastrous and threatening to that very society. Is it any wonder the mother of a killer is shameless in crying out her baby boy wasn't responsible when responsibility has been removed from every aspect of her life? Is it any wonder she, and those with her limited view vote for those who promise more of the same? It is any wonder this cancerous vision of democracy grows within while we debate promoting democracy without?
    I believe you are being gracious by dubbing the "war on poverty" as well intended. As with most other domestic "wars" and "initiatives", we threw money at the problem, expecting that giving people a "boost" was all they would need to propel them into stratospheric success in life. But for human nature itself, it could work. Being that we are dealing with humans, the entire plan was doomed from the beginning. I say such plans are not well intended, because it is my position that those contriving such plans well know how rampant the abuses are in the current systems, and do not care that they are generally rewarding failure while penalizing success. The focus in fact has nothing to do with "helping" the downtrodden, the motivations are (in order), financial gain, political survival, and a lust for greater influence through the creation of larger bureaucracy.


    I applaud the /rant above, and I'm one guilty of only knowing America from my domestic perspective. I only know what motivates people abroad from what I read in their news and get glimpses from in their story telling as I read novels. I have to admit the same lack of first person knowledge of our welfare state. But I get a lot more accounts of the latter in higher detail. It seems to me that while being tough on criminals we need to stop feeding the farm system that fosters so many of them. I'm all for locking up criminals, and keeping them locked up - let's stop funding the creation of them too. Thank you PBS, for showing me how bad slums are - now let's use your federal funding to bulldoze some of these domestic shelter projects your network promoted building.

    Probably I'm being mean spirited for suggesting cutting off both the tail and heads of this hydra. Uncivil I am.
    I'd say your perspective serves you well, and thank you.

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    who cares?

    I do not think the average "man on the street" gives a damn. Here is why I feel that way

    1) hooked on TV, instant gratifcation, listen to the all night ads, free money with no risk.
    2) lack of quality education in Govt schools History, Civics, Money Mgmt,
    3) Union member who votes the union ballot as told to do so
    4) hooked on sports.
    5) buys on credit way over the limits
    6) afraid to criticize the govt.
    7) no savings just win a lottery to retire

    I worked with a lot of youngsters who never spoke with the Sergeant (me). They whined a lot behind my back about the job interfering with their time off. Gossip was more interesting than opening my door and sitting down if they had a beef. When engaged in a conversation, I often cited a historical proof or point of reference. Their faces went blank. Their knowledge of history was related to the TV shows. Being "old" my advice had less value to them than Sean Penn or Bruce Wilis doing a cop role in a movie. I had to cite a movie to get their attention on to a real life issue. People's lives now are very fast paced, don't ask me why, but people lack the mental flexiiblity to adjust to 'real' changes. People want instant answers but are not willing (too lazy) to draw their own conclusions; they expect someone to hand them the answer.

    People are all about; "I, me, mine". Shortcuts are OK as is cheating. Being "Legal" is the standard of what is right. Sleazy politicians are expected, ever since the Clintons were dumped onto us from the big screen. People are not happy, but immerse themselves in distractions like big screen TV, sports, and popular media. Guiess who controls all that content? People want to be individuals, but think as a herd. The govt is their "shephard".

    "On-line" is the new reality. Real life is questioned. Hardship and hunger is for foreigners. Our govt is as corrupt as the Roman Senate of 200AD and British Parliament of 1775. No one has an answer as no one ever heard of these things occurring before, unless it was in a movie

    As a nation we are lazy, cheap propaganda targets, easily lied to and afraid to call out the liars. WE have no sense of history or patience.. On-line is reality. We let the "professionals" do our tihnking for us. We distrust the govt yet let he govt tell us how to iive, what to believe. Convenience is a right. Our best and brightest are overseas fighting other peoples wars. Lawyers and the lawyer ethic has enveloped us. Free Money, Sue Them. Transfer blame.

    Anyone recall the Chinese sub launched missile 35 miles west of LA on Nov 8, 2010? Obama's regime said it didnt happen, so many of us must wear tinfoil dunce-caps now.

    Sorry C/B no intent to take over your topic, but it is near and close to me. Keep your powder dry.
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    All of you, especially CB, make valid points. But my question is: What to do about the current situation? Not saying that I don't have my own ideas, only meant rhetorically. Part of the problem lies in that we constantly elect and re-elect politicians who promise to end crime and fix welfare, only for them to never even seem to try. When police crack down on an area or neighborhood where crime runs rampant, the people in that community do not say thank you for trying to rid my street of crime. They, instead, go on the local news and call the mayor or their city councilperson and complain about how unfair it is that the police are jacking everyone up and locking up their boyfriend/husband/son. The local politicians, meanwhile, do not say "Hey, you wanted drugs and violence out of your neighborhood and this is how to we have to do it". They call the Chief/Sherriff and insist that we tone down our measures. When the mother of a 14 year old who broke into a house calls the supervisor and asks why the police are harrassing her son, she is not told to do her job as a parent and keep his deliquint ass in the house. But that also goes back to the other problem-the parents. The question asked by the parents is not "What the hell were you thinking??!! (directed at child)" It is "Why are you arresting my son. What did he do that was so bad that you are harrassing him?" The parents do not try to instill discipline on their children. They get on the news and scream about how unfair it is of the police to target her children. But Lord help the PD if her house gets broken into. They better find who did it right then.

    Welfare is simple to change. Give the recepients 5 yrs. You will receive govt. aid to go to college and get a job so that you may become a productive member of society. After your 4 yrs of school, you then get one year to find a job. After 5 yrs, you are kicked out and cut off. Of course, I know no politician would do such a thing. It might cost them re-election. But, I can dream, can't I.
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