Iran Poll

**Beans** · 04-30-06, 05:04 PM

I am going to catch a ton of flak on this but the liberal in me is going to have to come out. I will say my piece and bow out quick before I get creamed.
I saw that 72 percent said we should do whatever it takes to stop Iran. How the hell are we going to do that with most of our resources tied up in Iraq and Afganistan?
There is no way that we would be able to maintain a war with Iran, considering they have a fairly large Military. Please enough of our guys have died....no more.

**Curt581** · 04-30-06, 05:17 PM

What do you suggest we do, beans?

Allow the U.S.-hating mullahs to develop thermonuclear weapons and ballistic delivery systems? If we do nothing, how long do you think it would take before they used them in some half-baked Holy Jihad against the infidel... meaning us?

If such a catastrophe were to happen, the liberal hand-wringers would be the FIRST to spout blame for the inaction.

I agree... it's a bad situation all around, but I don't see Iran backing down anytime soon.

**Norm357** · 04-30-06, 05:28 PM

I guess we should wait till Iran nukes a U.S. city before we do something. After all, thats the liberal way.

**BEK** · 04-30-06, 05:40 PM

OH where oh where is red white and liberal when we need him....

**Curt581** · 04-30-06, 05:42 PM

He was properly staked through the heart and buried in a shallow, unmarked grave.

The last thing we need is that asshole coming back.

**Garda** · 04-30-06, 06:03 PM

Would it not be an idea to get Iraq back up and running thereby having another (large) middle east ally to counter Iran?

This time the US involvement in Iraq is not limited to covert aid but direct mutual assistance and Iran is under more pressure than it was 20 years ago. Add that to SA, Isreal and Jordan and the US have strong allied support in the region.

I also think going into a third war would damage the support even further and stretch your ranks too thin to truly accomplish anything longterm in the region which could leave Iran stronger and more focused on the US.

**Standard Dave** · 04-30-06, 06:42 PM

Sit back and do nothing Israel will nuke them sooner or later anyhow

**StanSwitek** · 04-30-06, 08:38 PM

This will shock everyone but I agree with Garda 100% on this one. Also, this is not just a US vs Iran problem. Its the world vs Iraq. They should not have nukes in any way shape or form.

**Beans** · 04-30-06, 09:06 PM

Thank you for not trashing me to bad! As far as cops go I am fairly liberal. I get in arguements all the time at work!

I served in the US Army as a paratrooper so I am no pansy, but it just pains me to see us lose our soldiers. Anyway there is no easy solution for this, I just don't think America can handle a prolonged war with Iran.
Do I like that Iran could develop nukes? Hell no. I just think we need to think long and hard before we start another war. The current one is not going so well as it is.

**StanSwitek** · 04-30-06, 10:54 PM

I think very few of us want to see our troops sent off to another bloody war.

**Terminator** · 04-30-06, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by beans43

I just think we need to think long and hard before we start another war. The current one is not going so well as it is.

Does any war ever "go well"....considering their are always American casualties? War is war!!!

**mainedawg** · 05-01-06, 12:24 AM

No war is a good war. Some wars are just wars.

**mxwelch** · 05-01-06, 04:16 AM

How the hell are we going to do that with most of our resources tied up in Iraq and Afganistan?

We've got the resources. We just won't use them. We have fleet after fleet of B2s and B52s that'll probably never be used again, even if we do go to war. To agree with what's been said, it not just our problem, it everyones. America isn't the only country to be hit lately. Spain and Britain come to mind. I have no doubt Britain will do her share but that's probably about it. The Iranian president has told the world to $#%^ off and how Israel will be destroyed and how he will supply weapons to other countries. I ask, can we afford to sit back and see if he really means it?

**Standard Dave** · 05-01-06, 05:55 AM

You will still need boots on the ground a war can't be fought by remote control from ships and planes.
Iran is a big country compared to Iraq or Afghanistan
http://worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/me.htm

Attached a link for a map of the middle east, Iran is around three times the size of Iraq.

**Beans** · 05-01-06, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by LawEnforcementForums

Does any war ever "go well"....considering their are always American casualties? War is war!!!

I guess I can't argue with that.

**Virginian** · 05-01-06, 10:00 AM

The war will never go well because the people we are fighting are cowards who hide among the people they claim to be fighting for, and blow them up at the same time. We can't WIN, but we can get it stable enough for us to get out. Iran we can win, because we don't care about taking down the regime, just the nuclear program.

**26Trainer** · 05-01-06, 10:52 AM

mxwelch you have the right idea, use the B-52, B-2, and B-1 bombers. B-52 as you know can drop a shit load of hurt on our enemy's. B-1 can go in low and fast and the B-2 can sneak in and put it up thier butt hole! We do not have to loose any grunts. We may loose a pilot or two but no more than that.

**keith720** · 05-01-06, 11:33 AM

I agree with Standard Dave: let Israel deal with them. They seem to have the best history of dealing with situations such as this.

**Retdetsgt** · 05-01-06, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by 26Trainer

mxwelch you have the right idea, use the B-52, B-2, and B-1 bombers. B-52 as you know can drop a shit load of hurt on our enemy's. B-1 can go in low and fast and the B-2 can sneak in and put it up thier butt hole! We do not have to loose any grunts. We may loose a pilot or two but no more than that.

Bombing alone won't do it. You guys who think that's all it will take are dreaming.... You're going to have to commit troops and a lot of them. And unlike Iraq and Afghanistan, there's no evidence the people there are that unhappy with their government. It'll be 4X Iraq.

Let Israel take care of it, they're the ones who are under direct threat, not us.

I'm curious, how many of you guys who are rattling sabers have ever served in a combat arena? And I don't mean as a REMF, but up close and personal.

**Ducky** · 05-01-06, 03:08 PM

What gets me about the whole "countries at war" concept is that on both sides the old rich guys in power aren't on the front line, aren't taking the risks. Their kids aren't doing it either, instead they send other people's children and husbands off to die while they stay home and don't risk much of anything, not even their paychecks.

Maybe I'm bitter, but I'd rather see the politicians get in the ring and slug it out, at best risking themselves. Maybe then they'd be less prone to starting shit.