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    "Impressions & Observations" of Secret Service personnel assigned to guard U.S. Presidents

    Got this in an e-mail from friends(?) Don't know if its true but ????.. It's up to you to decide:

    John and Jacqueline Kennedy: A philanderer of the highest order.
    She ordered the kitchen help to save all the left-over wine during State dinner, which mixed with fresh wine and served again during the next White House occasion.
    Lyndon and Lady Bird Johnson: Another philanderer of the highest order. In addition, LBJ was as crude as the day is long.
    Both JFK and LBJ kept a lot of women in the White House for extramarital affairs, and both had set up "early warning systems" to alert them if/when their wives were nearby. Both Kennedy & Johnson were promiscuous and oversexed men.
    She was either naive or just pretended to "not know" about her husband's many liaisons.
    Richard and Pat Nixon: A "moral" man but very odd and weird, paranoid, etc. He had horrible relationship with his family, and in a way, was almost a recluse.



    She was quiet most of the time.


    Spiro Agnew: Nice, decent man, everyone in the Secret Service was surprised about his downfall.
    Gerald and Betty Ford: A true gentlemen who treated the Secret Service with respect and dignity. He had a great sense of humor.
    She drank a lot!
    Jimmy & Rosalynn Carter: A complete phony who would portray one picture of himself to public and very different in private, e.g., would be shown carrying his own luggage, but the suit cases were always empty; he kept empty ones just for photo op's. Wanted the people to see him as pious and a non-drinker, but he and his family drank alcohol a lot. He had disdain for the Secret Service, and was very irresponsible with the "football" nuclear codes. He didn't think it was a big deal and would keep military aides at a great distance. Often does not acknowledge the

    presence of Secret Service personnel assigned to serve him.

    She mostly did her own thing.
    Ronald and Nancy Reagan: The real deal --- moral, honest, respectful, and dignified. They treated Secret Service and everyone else with respect and honor. Thanked everyone all the time. He took the time to know everyone on a personal level.
    One "favorite" story which has circulated among the Secret Service personnel was an incident early in his Presidency, when he came out of his room with a pistol tucked on his hip. The agent in charge asked: "Why the pistol, Mr. President?" He replied, "In case you boys can't get the job done, I can help." It was common for him to carry a pistol. When he met with Gorbachev, he had a pistol in his briefcase. Upon learning that Gary Hart was caught with Donna Rice, Reagan said, "Boys will be boys, but boys will not be Presidents." [He obviously either did not know or forgot JFK's and LBJ's sexcapades!]
    She was very nice but very protective of the President; and the Secret Service was often caught in the middle. She tried hard to control what the President ate, and he would say to the agent "Come on, you gotta help me out." The Reagans drank wine during State dinners and special occasions only; otherwise, they shunned alcohol; the Secret Service could count on one hand the times they were served wine during their "family dinner". For all the fake bluster of the Carters, the Reagans were the ones who lived life as genuinely moral people.
    George H. and Barbara Bush: Extremely kind and considerate. Always respectful. Took great care in making sure the agents' comforts were taken care of. They even brought them meals, etc.
    One time Barbara Bush brought warm clothes to agents standing outside at Kennebunkport; one agent who was given a warm hat, and when he tried to nicely say "no thanks" even though he was obviously freezing, President Bush said "Son, don't argue with the First Lady, put the hat on." He was the most prompt of the Presidents. He ran the White House like a well-oiled machine.
    She ruled the house and spoke her mind.
    Bill and Hillary Clinton: Presidency was one giant party. Not trustworthy --- he was nice because he wanted everyone to like him, but to him life is just one big game and party. Everyone knows of his sexuality.




    She is another phony. Her personality would change the instant cameras were near. She hated with open disdain the military and Secret Service. She was another one who felt people are there to serve her. She was always trying to keep tabs on Bill Clinton.
    Albert Gore:An egotistical ass, who was once overheard by his Secret Service detail lecturing his only son that he needed to do better in school or he "would end up like these guys" --- pointing to the agents.



    George W. and Laura Bush: The Secret Service loved him and Laura Bush. He was also the most physically "in shape" who had a very strict workout regimen. The Bushes made sure their entire administrative and household staff understood to respect and be considerate of the Secret Service. Karl Rove was the one who was the most caring of the Secret Service in the administration.



    She was one of the nicest First Ladies, if not the nicest; she never had any harsh word to say about anyone.

    Barack & Michelle Obama: "Clinton all over again" - hates the military and looks down on the Secret Service. He is egotistical and cunning; looks you in the eye and appears to agree with you, but turns around and does the opposite---untrustworthy. He has temper tantrums.
    She is a complete bitch, who hates anybody who is not black; hates the military; and looks at the Secret Service as servants.

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    It's a variation of an email that has been around for years. The Secret Service has basically said that to disclose any private info or personal opinions such as this would be a MAJOR breach of professionalism, and I imagine they would come down like a ton of bricks on any agent, current or former, who would come out with anything even remotely like this.

    I find it suspicious in that it comes down almost exactly along expected party lines. Nothing is ever black and white like this.
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    Interesting post. If we want more Fords, Reagans and Bushes, maybe we should take a look at what their family life is and how they treat others is NOW. So far, the only two candidates that I have heard that are running for POTUS 2012 are Romney and Huntsman. Sadly, many in this country will discount these two just because of their religion.

    Any one else running for POTUS in 2012 that we should have our eye on?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bayern View Post
    George W. and Laura Bush: The Secret Service loved him and Laura Bush. He was also the most physically "in shape" who had a very strict workout regimen. The Bushes made sure their entire administrative and household staff understood to respect and be considerate of the Secret Service. Karl Rove was the one who was the most caring of the Secret Service in the administration.

    She was one of the nicest First Ladies, if not the nicest; she never had any harsh word to say about anyone.
    I was, on a few occasions, part of "Dubya's" motorcycle escort when he came to town.

    Speaking to some of their Secret Service detail during some of our "down time", they pretty much echoed this.

    They had nothing but good to say about George and Laura, and the way they were treated by them.


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    I had an acquantance that was on Al Gore's protective detail. I asked how he like Gore, and all he'd say is, "I like my job."
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    Secret Service Special Agents are notoriously quiet about what goes on. They have to be; they're privy to just to much "life" and if they talked, the President & family wouldn't trust them. That said -- a lot of this is information that has appeared elsewhere, in other guises. I've heard from Marines assigned to Marine One about the Clintons's disdain for the military; it's not at all hard to see them extend that to LE, even those assigned to protect them.

    I'm skeptical that they'd allow an uncontrolled firearm anywhere near the President -- even in his own briefcase. Too many ways I can see that going bad!

    I'm also skeptical that the SS would know much about the details of "family dinners." They vet the staff thoroughly, as well as all the food that comes in, so I doubt they'd worry about looking over the specifics of a meal. Would they know if the President or his family were habitually drunks? Sure.
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    Secret Service agents will talk to you. They've talked to me about a protectee.

    Never talked to one on the POTUS detail, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacLean View Post
    Secret Service agents will talk to you. They've talked to me about a protectee.

    Never talked to one on the POTUS detail, though.

    This. I got to meet some of George H Bush's detail after he was out of office while interning with the Secret Service. One of the guys in the field office I was at was preparing and left for George W's detail. Yes, he had to get in crazy shape to keep up on the runs.

    Meanwhile, fishing in Russia:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkzV5AIK8iM
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    What Ducky said. Though it reminded me of something

    Lyndon and Lady Bird Johnson: Another philanderer of the highest order. In addition, LBJ was as crude as the day is long.
    If you've never heard LBJ order pants, well...



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    Okay...what exactly is an over sexed man? I have never heard of that...it souns like a rumor to me
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    I agree with Ducky on this. It might all be true but it's pretty biased sounding. As for the agents, as to be on potus detail, I understand this to be the "top" job for the service, I would be surprised to hear them say much bad stuff in detail, other than maybe offhand comments like "I like my job."

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    I think they are more likely to speak about the protectees who are no longer active.

    I got an entire earful about Hillary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacLean View Post
    I think they are more likely to speak about the protectees who are no longer active.

    I got an entire earful about Hillary.
    Not the Secret Service, but read this book sometime:

    Amazon.com: Dereliction of Duty: The Eyewitness Account of How President Bill Clinton Compromised America&#39;s Long-Term National Security (9780895261403): Robert Patterson: Books

    Meanwhile, fishing in Russia:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkzV5AIK8iM
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