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    Gun control?

    An excellent article.

    Pro-Gun Argument
    As the Supreme Court heard arguments for and against the Chicago, IL Gun
    Ban, this man offered you another stellar example of a letter (written by a
    Marine), that places the proper perspective on what a gun means to a
    civilized society.

    Interesting take and one you don't hear much. . . . . .

    Read this eloquent and profound letter and pay close attention to the last
    paragraph of the letter....

    "The Gun Is Civilization" by Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force.
    If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either
    convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of
    force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories,
    without exception.

    Reason or force, that's it.

    In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through
    persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction and
    the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as
    paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason
    and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or
    employment of force.

    The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal
    footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with
    a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload
    of drunken guys with baseball bats.

    The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between
    a potential attacker and a defender.

    There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force
    equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all
    guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a
    [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's
    potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative
    fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.

    People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the
    young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a
    civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful
    living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

    Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that
    otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in
    several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the
    physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.

    People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal
    force, watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with
    a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works
    solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both
    are armed, the field is level.

    The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian
    as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as
    a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

    When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but
    because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot
    be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because
    it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who
    would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would
    do so by force. It removes force from the equation... and that's why
    carrying a gun is a civilized act.

    By Maj. L. Cauvdill USMC (Ret.)

    So, the greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed
    and can only be persuaded, never forced.

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    "A strong man stands up for himself. A stronger man stands up for others."

    The old sheriff was attending an awards dinner when a lady commented
    on his wearing his sidearm. "Sheriff, I see you have your pistol. Are you
    expecting trouble?" "No Ma'am. If I were expecting trouble, I would have
    brought my rifle."
    (just stole this one hope you don't mind)

    The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant,
    it is just that they know so much that isn't so.
    President Ronald Reagan

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    delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly
    promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
    holds forth the proposition that it is entirely
    possible to pick up a turd by the clean end!'

    A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. Sigmund Freud



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