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    So when speaking of Immigration it made me think. The people who say it's ok and it's no big deal. The ones who say that it doesnt hurt anybody and they are just rying to better themsleves and their family. Made me think of this analogy; tell me if this is ok.



    A mother and child live in a bad slum area of town, she doesnt have a good job and gets paid very little. The house they live in is falling apart but its all they can afford. Once she pays for the house and such she has very little or nothing left for food etc. The last few months have been really bad and her child is extremally hungry.

    One day she slips over to the rich part of town and breaks into a house. While inside the house she takes most of the food from the fridge and the pantry. She goes up to the bedrooms and takes the school books and such from the childrens rooms that live their. She goes into the master bedroom and takes some clothing and all the medicine from the bathroom as its the same type that she and her child needs. She then leaves and returns to her area of town.

    Now she hasnt hurt anything in the house while she was there, and she only took what she needed to get by, but she did break several laws. Is her behavious ok? Should society ignore the fact that she broke the law because she was only doing it to help her family? She didn't hurt anything, and that family is rich and can afford to replace the stuff she took.


    So what are the thoughts? If there is no problem since she was only doing it to help her family, where does it end? What other laws should we ignore if its in the good of ONE family?

    I think you all know where I stand on the issue, curious what some of the ones who are for Immigration, Amnesty, etc. feel about this.
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    "I believe that forgiving them is God's function. OUR job is to arrange the meeting."

    The above taken from your signature line explains my position. Charge her with Burglary (if night time 1st degree = 30 yrs to life in SC). Take the kid and turn it over to DSS (child protective svcs, or whatever). As you said, Let GOD (Judge?) forgive her, we just arrange the meeting (with the Judge).

    As for illegal immigrants, if they all stayed home and DEMANDED better conditions, things may change. They come here, get the $$$$ and contribute nothing to the US and send the money home to enrich whoever gets their hands on it. Are any of niave enough to actually believe the corrupt Mexican authorities don't get their share????

    As you say: "I believe that forgiving them is God's function. OUR job is to arrange the meeting"

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    I agree completly, and would charge accordingly. There are some here at this site, and all over the country who seem to convienently forget that they are ILLEGAL aliens. So I decided to put it into this context and see if they still agree with it. And if so where does it end, the not charging them?? What other crimes in society do we ignore??
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    The poor woman in Bigdawg's example is hurting the rich family by breaking into their home and stealing from them. She's taking stuff from them without their permission and without giving anything in return, so it's wrong for her to do that.

    An undocumented immigrant, on the other hand, is not hurting anyone, but just takes money from an employer with the employer's permission, and gives the employer (and the employer's customers) labor in return.

    Bayern, undocumented immigrants from oppressive, impoverished, and/or natural-disaster-prone countries are not likely to get better conditions at home just by staying and demanding them. If they improve their situation by going abroad, however, they can use the money they earn abroad, and the international connections they gain, to help their poorer families and communities back at home. These transnational connections do a lot to stabilize economies in poorer countries and maintain their ties with the US--and they are much less costly in terms of lives and money than the alternative of military action.

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    Jenna, I assume what he's referring to as far as "taking from them" is using the benefits of our healthcare, education and other systems without any investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    The poor woman in Bigdawg's example is hurting the rich family by breaking into their home and stealing from them. She's taking stuff from them without their permission and without giving anything in return, so it's wrong for her to do that.

    Ok Jenna the rich family in my example is the USA. And having the woman come into her home (our Country) and taking from the citizens is wrong. Some undocumented immigrants work but a majority dont, and the woman in this example does work. But she is taking food in the form of food stamps from Americans, health care and education, and not contributing(taxes). So they both are hurting someone, the Illegal Immigrant by taking from the US and not contributing and the lady from the rich people.

    An undocumented immigrant, on the other hand, is not hurting anyone, but just takes money from an employer with the employer's permission, and gives the employer (and the employer's customers) labor in return.

    Undocumented immigrants come here and use our health care, school systems, a large population of them go on welfare. So yes they do hurt our society. They take jobs from Americans and give nothing but labor in return. They dont pay taxes, so they contribute their share.

    I know the argument of these are jobs that most Americans don't want anyway, and most don't because of the pay level. Americans who pay taxes and have to follow the system can't live on that pay. If the immigrants weren't here they pay would be raised to where it should be and Americans would do the job.

    Bayern, undocumented immigrants from oppressive, impoverished, and/or natural-disaster-prone countries are not likely to get better conditions at home just by staying and demanding them. If they improve their situation by going abroad, however, they can use the money they earn abroad, and the international connections they gain, to help their poorer families and communities back at home. These transnational connections do a lot to stabilize economies in poorer countries and maintain their ties with the US--and they are much less costly in terms of lives and money than the alternative of military action.
    So is it the job of the US to accept every person from every impoverished country into our country so they can make money to send back home. So they can live off our Welfare system and health care system, but not contribute? The US already contributes Billions of dollars into these countries, isnt that enough? We should be doing more to help ourselves and less for every country in the world. I don't pay my taxes every year so Jose from some Latin country can have his family here living off me while he works the fields and sends his money home. Then when he makes enough he to leaves. My tax dollars should be going to Americans first, the rest of the world last. If we did this correctly I think our taxes would go down some, and we could help other countries more.
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    Jenna, you are some piece of fucking work.

    Let's not forget that a large portion of undocumented illegals engage in CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, ranging from anything to driving without insurance (then later crashing and driving up MY rates), to hit and run, to KILLING COPS. And for the most part, there is no accountability, because there is no way to check a "Licencia de Conducir" against the 8 million Juan Jose Martinez-Ramirez's I find on a fruitless QDA search.

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    Bayern, undocumented immigrants from oppressive, impoverished, and/or natural-disaster-prone countries are not likely to get better conditions at home just by staying and demanding them. .
    The above statement is in direct contradiction to a response of yours in the N. Korea nuke thread:

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    Give them aid to build goodwill and help alleviate their poverty and famine. Try to help them become prosperous enough to develop a large middle class that will demand a better government.
    Our geographically closest allies receive some 72 percent of our foreign aid dollars. Mexico alone sucks up about $15,000,000 a year, on top of us constantly bailing out their economy when they fuck it up for themselves. So which is it? Does aid help or does it not help? I propose that it isn't working...neither for Mexico OR for North Korea.

    But oh wait, Bill Clinton, the greatest democratic pundit ever known even threw aid at them WITHOUT discussing it with Congress even! mexico MUST have appreciated that act of good faith!
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    Why am I not surprised that the idea of an analogy went WAY over Jenna's head.

    These "undocumented immigrants" (they are ILLEGAL ALIENS!!) come here and leech on society. Just like the poor woman in the analogy stole items from the rich family, these ILLEGAL ALIENS come here and steal from our society.

    It is not impossible to get into this country legally. I did it myself, and know other people who have done so successfully. Yes, even Mexicans.
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    Mexico's second largest source of income is money sent home from immigrants working here. Oil is the first.

    The money being sent home should be spent here - paying for the many resources they take advantage of on a daily basis.

    If I moved to another country tomorrow, including anywhere in Central and South America, there would an expectation of me learning enough of the language to function. I would be expected to know the laws of my new home, and to respect the laws and the citizens.

    Every other nation (including all those nations in Central and South America) have laws controlling immigration, and who can work in their countries, and who can own property in those countries.

    I say we just follow those same rules.
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    Well at least I know some people get the analogy. Didn't realize I might have to build a road map for others to follow it.
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    Jenna

    I know your arn't dumb, but your sure are BLIND. I don't suppose you have been anywhere but your cozy little world away from reality. Do you actually believe that the money being sent home by ILLEGALS is not being skimmed off the top by corrupt officials????
    Do you believe if we sent money, goods to N Korea it would ever get to the masses???? Do you think all the money sent to the 3d World actually gets down to the little people?????Do you believe that all the food stuffs ssent to Africa and other didtitute places are GIVEN to the poor????? Nope, IT IS SOLD and the money goes into the government official pockets. I have been to those places we talk (except N Korea) and I have seen the corruption and greed by the public officials. No, Jenni, I take back the first sentence of my reply I think you are DUMB and BLIND. Not in the real sense, but your worldly view of the world we live in. Wake up and see the forest for the trees. When you and your ilk wake up, it will be to damn late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    An undocumented immigrant, on the other hand, is not hurting anyone, but just takes money from an employer with the employer's permission, and gives the employer (and the employer's customers) labor in return.
    Jenna. Jenna Jenna Jenna Jenna. Where to begin?

    Deep breath. Okay. Let's start, shall we?

    "Undocumented immigrant"? Jenna, they are aliens. There are two types of aliens: Resident Aliens (Legal), and Illegal aliens. By the very name, Illegal aliens are breaking the law. So the minute they cross the border they are, by definition, criminals. Period.

    So, they aren't hurting anyone, you say? They just take money, you say?

    What about the illegal aliens that use hospital resources without paying? They drive up the cost for us who actually pay their bills. So, in effect, they are taking money directly out of my pocket every time I have to go to the hospital.

    But at least they aren't hurting anyone, right?

    What about when an unlicensed driver (because they are here illegaly) is at fault in a auto accident and doesn't have insurance? The other party can't afford uninsured motorist on their insurance because it costs too much. Now they are up the creek and have to buy a new car out of their own pocket because of an illegal alien.

    But at least they aren't hurting anyone, right?

    What about the thousands of illegal aliens that come into this country to commit felonies such as rape, robbery, crimes against children, and even murder?

    But at least they aren't- oops, there goes your logic.

    What do you have to say that, Jenna? I tell you what- let's get a huge list of liberals like you who think the ILLEGAL ALIENS aren't hurting anyone and we'll just have the hospitals and insurance companies bill YOU. Would that be okay? Then everyone's happy.
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    Amen my Brother.



    We havent even touched on the subject that the majority of ALL illegal drugs in this country comes into this country by these illegal aliens. Its either manufactured by them in their country then shipped in, muled in, etc. Or they bring the know how from their country and begin producing it here. And that goes for, Marijuana, Meth, Cocaine, Exstacy, Opium, Hash, Heroin, etc. etc.

    But at least there not hurting anyone. Maybe just a few school children.


    The most violent gangs in this country are gangs that originated in another country. The members here are Illegal aliens. And they commit crimes everyday against Americans.

    But atleast there not hurting anyone???
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    You mustn't forget the countless girls and young women who are lured to make illegal entry with the promise of jobs, only to be forced into prostitution/slavery.

    The countless illegals who have paid "coyotes" to escort them who are left to die, or are murdered.

    We've had several serious/fatal traffic collisions involving blacked-out load vehicles going the wrong way on the freeway in an attempt to beat the check points.

    Also, the explosion in identity theft can be directly tied to illegal immigration. There is a huge black market for fake ID's...including the use of Social Security numbers issued to people now deceased.
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    This is how I roll: They are ILLEGAL ALIENS, and they totally disrespect my ancestors who migrated here LEGALLY by running their little asses across the desert in the dead of night. I have a simple solution for people like Jenna: Shoot the first two or three and the rest will run the other way! Think I'm radical? Try to just run across the border in Russia, China or Colombia and let me know how that works out for you!

    Feel sorry for them? FUCK those people! If their country is so fucked up, band together, take over the government and make things better! That's what we did, that's what China did, that's what Russia did, etc.

    Here's a better idea Jenna: If you feel so sorry for those assholes, why don't YOU and all your liberal cry-baby friends move there and take care of them? HUH? I don't hear anything but crickets!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitestokker View Post
    Try to just run across the border in Russia, China or Colombia and let me know how that works out for you!
    Couple of bad examples there.
    From my experience the first two don't actually seem to care too much about how many leave the country.
    An immigration guy was telling me they are not even attempting to remove Chinese at the moment.
    Apparently it is taking anything up to 5 years to get the chinese to confirm ID.
    As for the russians they just claim to be Lithuanian, and as Lithuania is about to become an EU state their presence here is not questioned.
    I imagine its the same with Mexico, its more beneficial to lose people than keep them.
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    Big Dawg,

    I like the comparison.


    Jenna,

    God bless you, but WTF?

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    The point was missed by my English colleague. I was talking about people coming INTO those countries, not fleeing from them. Therefore, I believe my examples are valid.

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    the lovely illegals here like to run slaves...
    human slaves

    its just awful

    dont think it doesnt happen jenna... I came across it personally here... it is rather huge in Miami and really sad

    do you even pay taxes or do you have like so much money that it doesnt matter to you?

    I think you are a nice person but really have your head in a cloud

    how about someday you get hit by a car with an illegal driving with no license and no insurance.... what happens then? are you all cozy and feel sorry for them... or are you gonna get pissed off?

    there are alot of points made and I hope you hear them and understand that they are true.

    I come across illegals who are murders and rapists and theives who then just easily go back across the boarder when they know their time here is done. They have a little network and its just disgusting.

    money home to families? that is like movie material...reminds me of the movie with steve martin ... the jerk where he sends home money and they end up all happy at the end... NOT...

    anyway...
    I hope you dont think everyone is picking on you... I know I am not and hope you dont take anything personal.... Its just I hope you open some of your brain to thinking that everything isnt all roses.

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    We dallied under
    Vine maples and sapling alders
    Searched for lady slippers
    But instead
    Found blackberry riots and
    Desiccated branches

    An old skid road
    Brought ghost ferns and
    Hollows filled with
    Skunk cabbage
    While waves wrapped
    Intricate lacings of weeds
    'Round mule spinners

    His cyanotic eyes
    Were hard enough to make
    The sun turn tail and
    Tender enough to attract me
    To his world of illusion

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