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Thread: Celtics ROCK!!
06-18-08, 12:53 AM #1
Ohhh, I'm so happy right now!The true measure of your character is what you choose to do when you think no one is looking.
06-18-08, 01:02 AM #2
HELLZ YEAH!He who has the money, signs the cheques.
He who signs the cheques, makes the rules.
He who makes the rules, has the power.
He who has the power, has the money.
06-23-08, 04:17 AM #3
Good year for Boston fans of all sports...RIP Sarah Noll~11-8-87 to 4-17-08
06-23-08, 09:46 PM #4
Maybe someone can clue me in. I never have been able to figure this out.
Why is it that the Boston Celtics always pronounce Celtic with an S instead of a K?
I guess they americanized it. Or followed the Medieval Latins? I guess I just answered my own question.
I have always wanted to pronounce it with a K. Proper names be damned.
The pronunciation of the words Celt and Celtic in their various meanings has been surrounded by some confusion: the initial <c> can be realised either as /s/ or /k/. Both can be justified philologically and both are "correct" in terms of English prescriptive usage.
Although the word originated in an early Continental Celtic language, it comes to us from Greek (Keltoi), where it is spelled with a kappa; thus is the original pronunciation. This was borrowed into Latin (Celtae), where it was likewise pronounced. However in Mediaeval Latin, the letter <c>, originally pronounced /k/, shifted to /s/, a process known as palatalization, and many words and names borrowed from Latin into English after this sound shift are pronounced this way: centre, Cicero, et cetera. Thus /s/ is the inherited pronunciation in English. For additional discussion see Latin pronunciation.
Until the mid-20th century, Celtic was usually pronounced with /s/ in English except by academics, but the pronunciation with /k/ has been gaining ground rapidly. Following the usage of philologists, /k/ is now almost invariably used with reference to Celtic languages even in non-academic contexts. It is also the more popular pronunciation when talking about most other aspects of Celtic culture. However /s/ remains the only recognised pronunciation of the word when it occurs in the names of sports teams, most notably Celtic Football Club and the Boston Celtics basketball team; as these are proper names, the traditional pronunciation is entrenched.
There is a great deal of misinformation in circulation on this topic. It should be noted that there is no American-British distinction in these pronunciations nor is there a Scottish-Irish distinction. Neither pronunciation has been influenced by any modern Celtic languages, nor by Old Norse. The corresponding words in French are pronounced with /s/ while those in German have /k/ (and <k>), but neither French nor German has influenced English usage; rather, they show independent reflexes of the same phenomena in Latin and Greek.
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