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    Quote Originally Posted by StanSwitek View Post
    It amazes me how those that never arrested a doper or prostitute, never worked in the field of law enforcement & gained some expertise, never testified as an expert in court & only real world experience is taking a hit from a bong, seem to know so much.
    Me too

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    Stan dont forget its also what their know it all Professors tell them also.

    Course we know those that can, do. Those that cant, teach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDawg3533 View Post
    Stan dont forget its also what their know it all Professors tell them also.

    Course we know those that can, do. Those that cant, teach.
    So true so true. I like how all these "scholars" can quote all the libertarian nonsense but when it come to understanding something as basic as the broken windows theory on urban decay, it's way over their head.

    I just wish their was a country with no laws where they could all go & do as they wish. Oh wait, one comes to mind. Somalia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanSwitek View Post
    It amazes me how those that never arrested a doper or prostitute, never worked in the field of law enforcement & gained some expertise, never testified as an expert in court & only real world experience is taking a hit from a bong, seem to know so much.
    I have expertise in morality, sir. And morality dictates that no one [hu]man has the moral right to interfere in the lives of others unless it directly is comes as an assault on the lives of others. A doper that ODs does not hurt you, nor others. A doper just ODs and hurts his/herself. I'm tired of seeing my tax dollars wasted on a fruitless venture such as this modern Prohibition. It's finished, admit it and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanSwitek View Post
    So true so true. I like how all these "scholars" can quote all the libertarian nonsense but when it come to understanding something as basic as the broken window theory on urban decay, it way over their head.
    Perhaps because it takes a basic form of logic and common sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by RationalMuse View Post
    I have expertise in morality, sir. And morality dictates that no one [hu]man has the moral right to interfere in the lives of others unless it directly is comes as an assault on the lives of others. A doper that ODs does not hurt you, nor others. A doper just ODs and hurts his/herself. I'm tired of seeing my tax dollars wasted on a fruitless venture such as this modern Prohibition. It's finished, admit it and move on.

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    Morality respects existing law. To people like you it's all about personal indulgence & evryone else be dammed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDawg3533 View Post
    Stan dont forget its also what their know it all Professors tell them also.

    Course we know those that can, do. Those that cant, teach.
    “Those that know, do. Those that understand, teach.” - Aristotle
    Q.E.D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanSwitek View Post
    Morality respects existing law.
    Only if it follows morality. Morality is not subject to law. Law is subject to morality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virginian View Post
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    Google is your friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RationalMuse View Post
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    OK Rational you have already that your opinions dont come from being there. So I assume they come from; your upbringing, Professors/teachers, friends, media, and internet. So why cant you take from some experts who work it and see it everyday that its not going to solve anything.

    There never is just the one person that od's. there is so many more than just that person.

    You want to make all drugs legal. so we then spend all our money on the health care of drug addicts. So we can then tax it and you or others can complain about all the taxes in this country. So we can add more people to welfare because they cant hold down a job because they are hooked on drugs. Making it legal is not the answer.

    No we wont win the war on drugs, or drunk driving, or terrorism, or violent crime, or a million other things we fight each and every day. But making any of it legal isnt the answer. Maybe it is time to look at doing something else. But you wont get a bunch of cops to agree thats it to make it legal. Not with what we deal with each and everyday, and what we see each and every day.

    So continue smoking your bong in the closet and put your efforts to something more sensible and worth while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virginian View Post
    We need a "Verified non-retard" section

    Besides the Verified sections we already have? Oh yes, I do know what you mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RationalMuse View Post
    I have expertise in morality, sir. And morality dictates that no one [hu]man has the moral right to interfere in the lives of others unless it directly is comes as an assault on the lives of others. A doper that ODs does not hurt you, nor others. A doper just ODs and hurts his/herself. I'm tired of seeing my tax dollars wasted on a fruitless venture such as this modern Prohibition. It's finished, admit it and move on.

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    Hmmm, spoken like someone that doesn't get out of the house much.

    A doper that ODs has a significant impact on other. They just don't drop on the side of the road and picked up with the garbage.

    When there is an OD many times people will call 911 (is it an OD? Are they Doctors? No, all they know is someone is in "trouble") That 911 call will cause a response that may even kill the people attending to it. An OD gets no less of a response than a person having a heart attack, because joe average has no idea what an "OD" looks like.

    You are sick of your tax dollars being wasted? Well, currently your US tax dollars are funding nearly 40% ($540+ Billion) of the US healthcare system.

    Imagine increase healthcare expenses, increased health risks, increased addictions, increased unemployment and an increase of the unemployable, and that's what legalization/decriminalization will get you.

    Peel the layers of the onion of a few more times and try looking at the bigger issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RationalMuse View Post
    Only if it follows morality. Morality is not subject to law. Law is subject to morality.

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    The Unites States Supreme Court decides that, not you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Man View Post
    Sure as hell ain't mine now
    I thought you had me on ignore? Come on, be consistent if you want any respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RationalMuse View Post
    I thought you had me on ignore? Come on, be consistent if you want any respect.

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    Why can't these guys actually add something to the debate.

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    Rationalmuck: the following is a post made by YOU at another site.
    You lied to me and said you were not with the others and yet now I see that you are or since it is so easy to come back you may have been all of them.
    Your being here is just to bother and harass this site. You have no other purpose other than that. You are a disgusting person with nothing better to do than live on the internet. I dispise liars.
    If you have any self respect you would leave us alone. You have nothing valuable to say and did not come here with the intention to share information or discuss issues... you came her just to bother us.

    you are a disgusting internet troll and your photo shows it to be realistic.
    is that your own red hair?

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    If you find drugs on a person, the "victim" for your report is the State of Minnesota (or wherever you work). Society is victimized when its laws are broken.

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    Yes 5 = 7.14%
    No 62 = 88.57%
    Only drug use is a victimless crime 1 = 1.43%
    Only prostitution is a victimless crime 2 = 2.86%

    Voters: 70.

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