View Poll Results: Should the drinking age be lowered?
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Yes! Drop it to 18. Old enough to join the military, old enough to drink!
Eliminate it entirely, let bars and stores decide who to sell to.
11-29-06, 01:56 AM #21
11-29-06, 02:00 AM #22
I disagree Iron Man....using your logic, everything could return to a parenting issue...including the drug issue going on in another thread...the thing I come back to is there is nothing good that could come from lowering the age...the next Einstein or the cure for cancer is not gonna be found because some 15 year old could get drunk with his pals....so if it is not going to add anything, why risk the potential dangers?
And FYI Ian....I didnt have a drink till I was 21....
11-29-06, 02:18 AM #23
What potential danger is posed to society that merits the law? You don't have laws on the basis you will produce another Einstein
or find a cure for cancer. You pass laws to protect society as a whole and the rights of an individual.
What harm would come to society if we repealed the law? THAT's what you should be asking. Not thinking "so if it is not going to add anything".
11-29-06, 02:27 AM #24
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11-29-06, 02:48 AM #25
You can look at it that way, but I don't see it as a zero sum game. If the law had never been on the books, and we were discussing it then...maybe I would be more inclined to your side of thinking...but there is precedent, we keep minors from many harmful things in society, and I can think of no good reason to change it...
11-29-06, 03:08 AM #26
Becuase the law does nothing, that's not good enough reason to repeal it. I don't understand that logic.
11-29-06, 03:10 AM #27
11-29-06, 03:12 AM #28
11-29-06, 03:13 AM #29
11-29-06, 03:18 AM #30
Iron man...the law DOES do something, it prevents some from drinking, myself included. I am sure I am not the only person in history to have a law be a deterrent. No law is 100% effective, but I don't think you can repeal the law on that basis, or we would have no laws at all. I didn't drink till after my 21st birthday, because I was deathly afraid of getting busted. Again, I cant believe I am the only kid to have looked at it that way.
11-29-06, 03:43 AM #31
11-29-06, 05:15 AM #32
I definately can see the logic in lowering the drinking age to 18. I too agree with the idea that if you can fight for your country you should be able to throw back a few beers.
11-29-06, 05:34 AM #33
We let 18yos vote, but they aren't mature enough to drink?!? I don't think immature people should be voting for the President. Maybe we should raise the voting age.
They are adult enough to join the military, but they can't drink?!? That's a slap in the face to the men and women in the military. "You can die for me, but by the way, I don't want you drinking- that's way too adult a thing for you to do."
I grew up when the drinking age was 18. Funny thing, I didn't die or have a car wreck. None of my peers died from drinking and driving either. Maybe, we were more mature back then and today's society doesn't teach 18yos as well?"When a crime is committed, liberals blame society. Conservatives blame the criminal." -Debra Saunders
Old Scottish Motto- "nemo me impune laccessit". It still holds true today.
11-29-06, 05:38 AM #34
I want you to show me- in any of my posts- where I said drugs should be used carte blanch with no age restriction.The virtue of spirit has no need for thanks or approval. Only the certain conviction that what has been done is right. -Jor El, as played by Marlon Brando
11-29-06, 08:56 AM #35
I agree with letting 18 year olds drink. Sometimes with age does not comes responsibility. Especially when you keep getting the older adults on their second and third DWI's.
11-29-06, 09:34 AM #36
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11-29-06, 10:09 AM #37
11-29-06, 10:19 AM #38
I do not think the drinking age for the general public should be lowered. As an LEO I see that most kids could not handle it.The opinions given in my posts DO NOT reflect the opinions, views, policies, and/or procedures of my employing agency. They are my personal opinions only, thereby releasing my agency of any liability, or involvement in anything posted under the username "Beans" on LEF.
11-29-06, 12:01 PM #39
I'm startin' to agree with Ian! If they are weaned and old enough to drink from a sippy cup, give 'em a beer! If they want a joint or a little crack when they're 12, who are we as a society to stop them? GIVE ME A FRICKEN BREAK! Society has a responsibility to safeguard it's citizens. Without laws, man has shown themselves to be irresponsible. Look to places where the government has lost control, such as Dufar to see where man's choices have led them. I'm sure no one gives a crap if you smoke a joint or drink there.For the morning will come. Brightly will it shine on the brave and true, kindly upon all who suffer for the cause, glorious upon the tombs of heroes. Thus will shine the dawn.
11-29-06, 12:21 PM #40
Same with here in Haiti. They really dont care about drugs, or drinking, or smoking ciggs. A child any aga can do it. They dont have welfare or very good health care here either. Everyone is allowed to have a weapon if they want it. Its just what Ian and people like him want.
BUT, the gangs basically rule the streets, they kill and kidnapp at will here. We can do almost nothing to stop them. Crime is rampant, people are living in the streets and die from starvation and a lack of health care, I see it every day. Prostitution is everywhere because its the only way some of them can feed their families. 78% of the people make $2 or less a day. This is the type of life that will eventually happen if we allow Ian to have his way and his freedoms."An Unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper
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