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    According to this website as of 2006-08-14, 1UNDER1 is a 36 year old male with no post secondary education that is currently looking for a job with benefits.

    And from what I can gather, a special patrolman, is not a police officer, but more along the lines of what we would call a peace officer. (deputized to have a very limited arrest authority, or because they are in a position of trust that may need access to police information databases.)

    According to the Special Patrolman Benevolent Association they are attempting to acquire penal code police officer status.

    Examples of NYC Special Patrolman were:

    Urban SAR
    Urban Park Rangers
    Security Guards
    School Security and crossing guards (not SROs)
    By-Law Enforcement

    ODMP has an entry for at least one. Anyone see the moive Gangs of New York?

    Special Patrolman Thomas Sparks
    New York Metropolitan Police Force
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    End of Watch: Thursday, July 9, 1857

    Biographical Info
    Age: Not available
    Tour of Duty: 1 day
    Badge Number: Not available

    Incident Details
    Cause of Death: Assault
    Date of Incident: Saturday, July 4, 1857
    Weapon Used: Blunt object
    Suspect Info: Not available

    Patrolman Sparks succumbed to injuries received when he was struck by an object after arresting a man for assault.

    Patrolman Sparks had been appointed a Special Patrolman only one night before due to rioting going on in the city. Two rival gangs, "The Bowery Boys" and "The Dead Rabbits" had faced off against each other.

    Patrolman Sparks heard a cry for help and arrested a man while investigating. As he walked the man toward White Street he was struck with an object by a member of the "Dead Rabbits" gang. He was taken home where his condition deteriorated he later died

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    In Texas a "Peace Officer" is just another term for "Police Officer", and they're definitely LEO's... They mean the same thing.

    Maybe what the world needs is a standard set of job titles for LEO, and eliminate all the job titles that sound similar.

    Saying all that, I've no doubt that a Special Patrolman's job can be dangerous at times - Any job where you're likely to piss off people, direct traffic, or come into contact with criminals is dangerous - And that includes volunteer positions.

    But obviously anyone with common sense can see that the danger a meter maid faces, for example, does not rise to the level of the danger faced by an LEO serving a felony warrant, answerng robbery calls, or giving active chase to felons - No frigging way.
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    Originally the ranks of Police Officers in New York City could be increased in times of civil disturbance by the Polioce Commissioner swearing in "Special Patrolmen". The NYC Transit Police were originally Special Patrolmen. By the early 1950's this pracrice faded away. The Transit and Housing PDs were organized as standing forces. Today the ability of the PC to commission Special Patrolmen is used to give certain titles such as Urban Park Rangers and School Safety Officers limited arrest powers. Some very latrge housing complexes have their private security forces commissioned, as do certain department stores.

    An aside to TXCharlie, I am sworn. Court Officers in New York State are sworn law enforcement officers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinosaur32
    An aside to TXCharlie, I am sworn. Court Officers in New York State are sworn law enforcement officers.
    My appologies... Your o.com profile must be wrong - That's what I was looking at:

    Are You a Sworn Police Officer:
    No

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    I say we get a petition together and require 1under1's mother to only swallow from now on, no more producing stupid moronic offspring.
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    New York has the most confusing fucking statuses of "law enforcement" that I have ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cntryboy0531
    New York has the most confusing fucking statuses of "law enforcement" that I have ever seen.
    If you think those are confusing, wait till you see the different names they have for "coffee"!

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    Cntryboy and TXCharlie.......the difference between Police Officers and Peace Officers in New York State is a big problem. On o.com they ask if you are a sworn police officer, which I am not and would never claim to be. I am, however a sworn Peace Officer. Under our Criminal Procedure Law all Police Officer titles have the same statutory authority. It is in the area of Peace Officer authority that the problem lies. Certain titles such as New York State Court Officer, New York City Sheriff, New York State and New York City Correction Officers have the power to enforce all laws of New York State and are permitted to carry firearms as a a result of their position. Other Peasce Officer titles have limitations placed on them. Some are limited by the sope of their employment to only enforce laws and regulations pertaining to the agency, such as an inspector for the Dept of Weights and measures. Most of the 80 Peace Officer titles need to get a carry permit from the local authority to carry even on duty. To further confuse the issue, some titles that are labeled as Police Officer are actually Peace Officers who need permits to carry, such as NYC Hospital Police. And certain Court Officers who are not hired by the New York State Office of Court Administration, but by local courts, fall into the same category.

    And in most States, court security is provided by a local police or sheriff's department. In New York, with the exception of contract security in the western, less populous part of the state, security is provided by the Office of Court Administration through the Department of Public Safety.

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    In Florida it's so simple. Enforcement, street level we just have City Police, and County Sheriff's. Some states say county Sheriff's can only enforce laws in the unincorporated part, etc.. But in Florida, it's simple...

    Sheriff's Office: Anywhere in the county, including city. Matter of fact, I just wrote a traffic citation over the weekened in the downtown part of our largest city. We also enforce civil court process which no other Law Enforcement agency is allowed to do. Also are the "defacto timber agent", I have no idea what that is. Also are the only ones in the state who are given the arrest authority of a warrant. Any LEO can detain on a warrant. But the only person that can sign it at the jail, is a Sheriff, or their Deputy. Also have the "Chief LEO" status for the entire county which is pretty bad ass when you think about it.

    City PD: Enforce laws within the city only.

    Then you have agency specific stuff.. FHP, Fish and Game, etc.. And they have all the same authority as a City PD except they have the authority state wide.

    Our system is honestly very simple when it comes down to it. A lot better than some other states.

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    Ours is a nightmare. I have a "getting ready for retirement" place in Palm Beach County and I often see the local PD and PBSO patrolling similar areas.

    I could spend hours going over the differences but would bore everyone including myself to tears....I'd probably get booted too.

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    Gee, what a surprising outcome!

    You guys owned him hard - here and at O.com. Well done.

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    In Texas, if I'm not mistaken, it's even simpler:

    All LEO's technically have authority to enforce the law anywhere in the State, even though they generally stick to their assigned jurisdictions and specialities.

    Even our Fire Marshal and Game Warden are LEO, I think, so technically they could go arrest someone on a murder warrant or hand out traffic tickets if they so desired - That's what I've been told in CJ class & by my Fire Marshal, anyway.

    Reserve officers are also full TCLEOSE LEO - There are no half-ass reserve officers.

    Police Auxillary are strictly non-LEO - about all they can do, max, is write parking tickets (and do citizens' arrests, of course, but that'd be against all their dept rules).
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    Where is 1UNDER1 ???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEK320 View Post
    Hey everyone I found him and his car out bustin some ass

    You are giving him WAY too much credit here.
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    I still think hes perfect Mall Ninja material and we should be supporting and assisting him to move in that direction. This is of course once he gets old enough, and can change his own diaper.
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