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    Civilians

    Most of the newer LEO`s are civilians.

    Military and Naval personel are subject to the UCMJ. All others are civilians by Title 18 USC.
    It ticks me off to hear these wannabes refer to citizens as civilians as if they were not.

    I am a fucking loser and never was a cop or in the military. I have no life and have to pretend to be something I am not, cause I am a fucking loser. Hey Welcome to McDonald may I take your order.

    Sorry about the interuption I had to man the drive thru and keep my country safe.



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    And I would ask, just who the losers are?
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    Not to be snarky, but modern usage for the word "Civilian" doesn't pertain only to non-military persons anymore.

    From Dictionary.com

    ci‧vil‧ian  /sɪˈvɪlyən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[si-vil-yuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
    –noun
    1. a person who is not on active duty with a military, naval, police, or fire fighting organization.
    2. Informal. anyone regarded by members of a profession, interest group, society, etc., as not belonging; nonprofessional; outsider: We need a producer to run the movie studio, not some civilian from the business world.
    3. a person versed in or studying Roman or civil law.
    –adjective
    4. of, pertaining to, formed by, or administered by civilians.

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    What he said. And it's far easier to say Civilian than to say non police personnel, or whatever! And what's this 'Wannabe' phrase?

    Cops are not Wannebes! They are!!
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    So LEO's are Civilians huh??


    And all LEO's are Wannabes???


    So LEO's are Civilian wannabes, there are alot of times I wish I was a civilian and not LEO anymore. Yes in this context Ill agree.



    But listen to me Jr. a LEO is not a Wannabe we are the real thing. I don't care what your USC title 18 says. Just remember one important thing;


    A LEO can lock-up ANY Military personnel on or off base. NO Military can lock-up a LEO Officer off base, and can do very little on most basis.

    So who is the Wannabe?????
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    As I am old sod, am I allowed to be offically a non civilian.

    Please, pleeaase!!
    I'll cry if you make me a civvy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motorwaycop View Post
    As I am old sod, am I allowed to be offically a non civilian.

    Please, pleeaase!!
    I'll cry if you make me a civvy.

    No! You are a Black Rat, which is worse than a Civvy, but not as bad as a Squaddie.
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    I'm a civilian. Who cares?

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    Last edited by conalabu; 11-30-06 at 01:20 PM.
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    Nah, hes just a Military wannabe is all.
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    Some people are meant to be the police......Some people are meant to call the police!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDawg3533 View Post
    Nah, hes just a Military wannabe is all.

    Surely not? He's an LEO and a Col of Inf, apparently.
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    Also alot of us are/ or were military, and we're LEO's on top of that so at easy. We are a brotherhood like the military, you are either blue or you are a civilan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostsix View Post
    Most of the newer LEO`s are civilians.
    Military or Naval are subject to the UCMJ. All others are civilians by Title 18 USC.
    It ticks me off to hear these wannabes refer to citizens as civilians as if they were not.
    I just saw the his word Naval, are they even concered real Military?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostsix View Post
    Most of the newer LEO`s are civilians.
    Military or Naval are subject to the UCMJ. All others are civilians by Title 18 USC.
    It ticks me off to hear these wannabes refer to citizens as civilians as if they were not.
    I just saw his word Naval, are they even concered real Military?
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    Apparently to him there not Military. Wonder if that is how they are listed in his USC Titles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAW DOG View Post
    I just saw his word Naval, are they even concered real Military?
    Well, he used it as noun which furthers the confusion on the matter and makes me wonder about whether or not his mind can actually process for real the statement he was trying to make no matter how bad a statement it was.....by the way what does concered mean?
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    OK. I messed that up. We are talking semantics here.
    Military refers to land warfare, Naval refers to sea warfare.
    The Army and AF are military. The sea services are naval.
    The 1947 UCMJ confused the issue by calling all subjects military to save print.
    The AF does not need a reg. against hazarding a ship.
    I certainly did not mean to offend.
    Anyway this is what I was taught in 1964. The USNI, AF, Intellegence, State and Army publications still make the differation.
    I am an LEO by choice. I like knowing the people who do this job. Most of us think the same way. We have a lot of fun and there is nothing like shared experiance to form close bonds. And there is the lure of danger or shared risk. I have my Army pension and do not need money.
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