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    Insane Clown Posse sues FBI for calling their fans a gang

    Insane Clown Posse and four fans are suing the FBI for designating the rap duo's followers as gang members.FBI analysts, using law enforcement and media reports of crimes committed by people wearing "Juggalo" tattoos and clothing, concluded in the 2011 National Gang Threat Assessment that they are a "loosely organized hybrid gang.""Juggalos are a 'family' of people who love and help one another, enjoy one another's company, and bond over the music and a philosophy of life," said the lawsuit filed in Detroit Wednesday. "Organized crime is by no means part of the Juggalo culture."The gang designation violates fans' constitutional rights, including free speech, freedom of association and the right to due process, the complaint argues.
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    Throwing gang signs and rampant drug culture is obvious.

    Don't know about being a "gang" but certainly a Douchebag Convention. Every Juggalo I've dealt with professionally was a raging asshole and an obviously addle brained drug user.

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    I've had this argument several times in the past. The problem with defining the Juggalos as a criminal gang is that you can't show that they are organized around committing crimes as a primary function of the organization. It's like trying to call Deadheads or Parrotheads a gang. Or every fan of any of the numerous gangster rappers. You're painting with too broad a brush.

    Rather than defining all Juggalos by the relative handful of criminals, find a way to distinguish that subset of the fans. Otherwise, the group is too diverse to support any functional definition or classification.
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    We have a local group of juggalos here. They are all about crime and putting their name and status out there
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgg View Post
    We have a local group of juggalos here. They are all about crime and putting their name and status out there
    Great! (OK, that sounds wrong, but you know what I mean...) Document THEIR activities and show that a primary function of THEIR association is committing crimes. I guarantee that's got a nickname for their set, let's just call them pgg's Juggalos. Because otherwise, I think that there are enough that are simply drug/alcohol party oriented Juggalos that trying to label the entire fan base is too broad.

    Let me compare them to motorcycle clubs. There are 3 patch clubs out there, with many of the trappings of the OMGs. (The Blue Knights is one...) But they're not outlaw. They're guys who like motorcycles, and certain lifestyle aspects... That's why we distinguish between the Hells Angels, Outlaws, Mongols, etc. and the Blue Knights and the rest. (And, yes, there are some on the fringes...)
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    Pfft. Good luck.

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