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12-03-06, 11:13 PM #1
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W.Va. City's Xmas Scene Has No Jesus
ST. ALBANS, W.Va. (AP) - Christ is missing from Christmas in this small town. The community's holiday display has a manger with shepherds, a guiding star, camels and a palm tree, but no baby Jesus, Mary or Joseph.
The parks superintendent said Jesus was left out because of concerns about the separation of church and state. But Mayor Dick Callaway said it was done for purely technical reasons: "It's not easy to put a light-up representation of a baby in a small manger scene, you know."
In recent years, some communities around the country have dropped nativity scenes after the displays were challenged as unconstitutional. Some communities have tried to head off legal problems by incorporating nonreligious symbols, or symbols of more than one faith, to avoid the appearance of endorsing one religion over another.
David Cunningham, parks superintendent in this town of 11,000, initially insisted St. Albans' display was not even technically a manger scene because he was concerned about possible lawsuits. But the mayor said such anxieties were unwarranted.
"We have a manger scene," the mayor said.
Around the country, only a few skirmishes in what some conservatives have called the "War on Christmas" have been reported this year so far.
Some retailers, including Wal-Mart, have returned to greeting customers with "Merry Christmas" after coming under attack last year for saying "Happy Holidays."
Two weeks ago, the Marine Reserves Toys for Tots program in Los Angeles overcame concerns about accepting a donation of 4,000 talking Jesus dolls that quote Bible verses by promising to make sure the dolls reach Christian children.
Some people are still scratching their heads over what happened in Chicago, where the movie studio behind "The Nativity Story" was dropped as a sponsor of a Christmas festival for fear of offending non-Christians.
In Wheeling, baby Jesus is represented in a manger scene at Olgebay Park's Winter Festival of Lights, which draws visitors from across the country.
"If anything, we get criticized for not having more examples of that type of thing," said J.C. Douglas Dalby, president of the Wheeling Park Commission.
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12-04-06, 03:53 AM #2
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Lamest pass-the-buck excuse I've heard in quite some time.The parks superintendent said Jesus was left out because of concerns about the separation of church and state. But Mayor Dick Callaway said it was done for purely technical reasons: "It's not easy to put a light-up representation of a baby in a small manger scene, you know."
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12-04-06, 05:20 AM #3
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Happy secular winter festival to you all.
Where do these PC idiots get off.
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12-04-06, 08:13 AM #4
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Originally Posted by Standard Dave
"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you.
He is training with minimum food or water, in austere conditions, day and night.
The only thing clean on him is his weapon.
He doesn't worry about what workout to do---his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him.
The True Believer doesn't care "how hard it is"; he knows he either wins or he dies.
He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home.
He knows only the Cause.
Now, who wants to quit?"
"I am only one, but I am one. I can not do everything, but I can do something. And because I can not do everything I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do I should do. And what I should do, by the Grace of God, I will do."
Edward Everett Hale
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12-04-06, 09:27 AM #5
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Originally Posted by BugEyedBeast
Yep, Happy whatever-the-heck-is-PC-now-mas.........................
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12-04-06, 09:57 AM #6
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This shit is getting out of Fu**ing control, where does it end??? What happened to the majority rules in this country??
I blame sh*t like this on the Liberals. Wanting to cater to everyone and be PC wherever they can. I say leave it well enough alone and stop Fu**ing every damn thing up in this country. If you dont like it here there is the damn door and dont let it hit you on the way out!!!"An Unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper
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12-04-06, 10:57 AM #7
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The only question I have is........do they still have the "pagan tree" displayed??? I'm happy to see the pagan tree accepted into so many christian homes.....and very rarely do you see the pagan tree inverted as the christains use to do.
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12-04-06, 12:29 PM #8
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Winter Solstice, bring on the dancing girls, mead, and the evergreen tree symbol of Odin.
Oh what the hell; Merry Christmas.
You wanna argue about it?
Maybe I'll just hibernate.
We are the thin blue line
between you
and all the money in the world.
And no you can't have any.
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12-04-06, 12:36 PM #9
the gene pool could use a little chlorine
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you know what?
MERRY F**KING CHRISTMAS
TO ALL OF THEM
not happy holidays bullshit
MERRY CHRISTMAS
http://www.allpoetry.com/Grunts%20Girl
We dallied under
Vine maples and sapling alders
Searched for lady slippers
But instead
Found blackberry riots and
Desiccated branches
An old skid road
Brought ghost ferns and
Hollows filled with
Skunk cabbage
While waves wrapped
Intricate lacings of weeds
'Round mule spinners
His cyanotic eyes
Were hard enough to make
The sun turn tail and
Tender enough to attract me
To his world of illusion
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12-04-06, 09:30 PM #10
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You know, this really pisses me off.
The holiday of Christmas is not here because of santa, or presents, or shopping.
We have Christmas because of Jesus Christ.
It wasn't Santa, or Abraham, or Mohammed, or whoever else that was born in a manger. It was Jesus.
Just ridiculous.No one has greater love than this, to lay down ones life for ones friends - John 15:13
"The Wicked Flee When No Man Pursueth: But The Righteous Are Bold As A Lion".
We lucky few, we band of brothers. For he who today sheds his blood with me shall be my brother.
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