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    More dumbasses messing with mother nature

    I am sick and tired of stupid frickin' idiots like this. Hmmmm, winter, mountains, December, let's go! It'll be fun. Even if they ever do find these tools alive, they should charge them for every damn penny spent on the search. Same goes for the family of Mr. Chinese guy who took his babies for a drive on a deserted logging road. STOP BEING STUPID, PEOPLE! I DO NOT FEEL SORRY FOR MORONS!!!


    COOPER SPUR, Oregon (AP) -- Cold rain lashed the base of Mount Hood on Wednesday as search parties headed back up the treacherous slopes to look for three climbers missing since the weekend.

    A fresh team joined the search Wednesday.

    Crews may get some additional help from heat-seeking, unmanned aircraft provided by a Colorado company and pinpoint cell phone detection equipment from another high-tech company, said Pete Hughes of the Hood River County Sheriff's Department.

    "But if anybody is above the 7,000-foot range, we're not going to be able to get to them," Hughes said. "And we're probably not going to be able to get to them by Thursday either, unless there happens to be a break in the weather."

    Even at the base camp at Cooper Spur, the wind hit 60 mph Wednesday morning and temperatures hovered in the 30s.

    At higher elevations, the teams have faced wind so strong it knocked them off their feet, plus poor visibility in blowing snow and a threat of avalanches. More stormy weather was in the forecast. (Watch rescuers frustrated by high winds )

    "The next 48 hours is not looking very good," Hughes said.

    Plans called for two staging camps on the north and south sides of the mountain so teams can head to the summit quickly if the weather breaks, he said.

    There had been no contact with the missing climbers since Sunday, when one reached his family by cell phone to say he was in a snow cave high on the mountain and his two companions had gone for help.

    The rescue effort was hampered because the three climbers had taken one of the most difficult approaches to the summit, scaling the north side of the mountain where slopes tilt at angles of 50 or 60 degrees and feature become sheer walls of ice. (Watch why route climbers chose is so challenging )

    Higher flanks of the mountain have been scoured by wind up to 80 mph.

    Kelly James, Brian Hall and Jerry "Nikko" Cooke had planned a "quick climb" on Mount Hood, traveling light to make the ascent as fast as possible, officials said.

    Cooke, 36, a lawyer from New York City, and Hall, 37, a personal trainer who played for the now-defunct Dallas Rockets professional soccer team, are believed to have attempted a descent while James, 48, a landscape architect from Dallas, apparently remained near the summit.

    James has the most experience -- 25 years of mountaineering that includes Mount McKinley, the Andes Mountains in South America and peaks in Europe, his family said.

    "My brother has been climbing for 25 years, and he would know what to do in a difficult situation," said Frank James. "He's been in a number of situations and always managed to get out well. I think that's a testament to his experience."

    Frank James said it wasn't clear from his brother's four-minute cell phone call whether he was injured. His brother did appear to be feeling the effects of the cold and said he was worried about the weather, he said.

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    Hey now... I climb mountains in winter. Of course, we plan for self-rescue, should the need arise (though I imagine this group did, too, given their experience). And, a few of the guys I have climbed with over the years are actually mountain SAR guys.

    This is not to say that I know the circumstances behind this event, but still... One of the climbers listed has 25 yrs experience and climbed Denali (mckinley), which is far harder on a good day than you would expect from Mt Hood on a bad day.
    Denali is some serious climbing... so I'm guessing these guys knew their stuff at least better than your average mountaineer.

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    I don't give a shit how good they "think they are". I am looking at it from the SAR standpoint. I was on SAR when I worked in Wyoming and it puts a lot of people in danger looking for these idiots. If you want to be a fucking moron and take that chance, then fine. But at least be kind enough to leave a note with someone stating that you are a super-duper-expert mountain type idiot person and you don't want anyone to bother looking for you if you go missing. That would save a lot of headaches for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitestokker View Post
    I don't give a shit how good they "think they are". I am looking at it from the SAR standpoint. I was on SAR when I worked in Wyoming and it puts a lot of people in danger looking for these idiots. If you want to be a ------- moron and take that chance, then fine. But at least be kind enough to leave a note with someone stating that you are a super-duper-expert mountain type idiot person and you don't want anyone to bother looking for you if you go missing. That would save a lot of headaches for everyone.

    Are you in a bad mood today, nitestokker? You need a hug?

    Actually, that was exactly my thought when I first read this post. Experienced or not, these climbers have put a LOT of people at risk, because of their choices.
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    I'm ALWAYS in a bad mood! So shut up and go away!

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    I'm ALWAYS in a bad mood! So shut up and go away!
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    Gotta agree with Nitestokker on this one. If you want to be a dumbass, fine. But don't endanger everyone else just because you wanted to "have a little fun."
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    Quote Originally Posted by nitestokker View Post
    [B]I am sick and tired of stupid frickin' idiots like this. Hmmmm, winter, mountains, December, let's go! It'll be fun. Even if they ever do find these tools alive, they should charge them for every damn penny spent on the search. Same goes for the family of Mr. Chinese
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    I couldn't have said it better

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    They should be billed heavily for the SAR services.

    "Stupid should hurt."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitestokker View Post
    I'm ALWAYS in a bad mood! So shut up and go away!

    LOL...I have this feeling, I'm going to hear that from you a LOT.
    Sigh....okay, no hug today.
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    Body Found in Mt. Hood Snow Cave
    By JOSEPH B. FRAZIER
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    HOOD RIVER, Ore. - With a family's hopes dashed by the discovery of a dead climber in a snow cave up Mount Hood, searchers pressed on Monday in hopes of finding the two climbers who remain missing on the 11,239-foot mountain.

    Family members had relied on an intense religious faith along with confidence that the extensive mountaineering experience of the trio would save them from a week of blizzard storms and single-digit temperatures that kept search teams and helicopters at bay on the treacherous north side of Oregon's highest mountain.

    Pete Hughes, of the Hood River County sheriff's office, the lead agency in the search, said Monday's effort would center on possible descent routes on Eliot Glacier and Cooper Spur, relatively lower levels of the mountain, in case the other two got down that far.

    He said the identity of the dead climber was expected to be released Monday. His body remained on the mountain Sunday night because darkness made it too dangerous to retrieve.

    Searchers found a snow cave Sunday near the spot located by cell phone signals traced from Kelly James, 48, of Dallas, who made a four-minute call to his family Dec. 10 just below the summit.

    He told his family the climbing party was in trouble and that the other two had headed back down, apparently for help. He may have been injured.

    The body was found in a second snow cave near the first, about 300 feet below the summit. Rescuers found two ice axes, a sleeping bag or pad and rope in the first. It was not known if any gear was in the second cave.

    "We remain hopeful," said Capt. Mike Braibish, spokesman for the Oregon National Guard. "We are going to still collect information and pursue the rescue of the two other climbers."

    Near the first snow cave, helicopters had spotted rope that had been intentionally laid out in a Y-shape, which climbers often use to indicate their location. There also was an ice spike and footprints, apparently headed up the mountain, said Sgt. Gerry Tiffany, a spokesman for the Hood River County sheriff's office.

    Searchers dug through the first cave to ensure no one was there and took the equipment, which will be examined for clues. The second cave with the climber's body was found a short time later.

    It was not immediately clear which cave was occupied first, or why or when the climber, or climbers, decided to move from it.

    Weather conditions have been harsh since the three were reporting missing, with heavy snow and wind gusts of up to 100 mph. The snow stopped Saturday, but wind of up to 50 mph blew the fresh snow, hampering visibility.

    There has been no communication since a week ago Sunday when James made the cell phone call, and none since the climb began from Brian Hall, 37, also of Dallas, or Jerry "Nikko" Cooke, 36, of New York City.

    Braibish said Sunday that the families gathered here had been told that one fatality was confirmed but that there was no positive identification.

    "Our hearts are going out to the families right now," said Braibish.
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    Family ID's climber killed on Mount Hood
    Kelly James found Sunday in snow cave; search to resume for 2 still missing
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    HOOD RIVER, Ore. - The dead climber found in a snow cave up Mount Hood has been identified as Kelly James, 48, of Dallas, a family spokesperson told NBC News on Monday. The discovery of James' body brought a sad conclusion to a long week of anxious optimism among family and friends gathered here to await news of three missing men.

    With the hopes of one family shattered and those of two more on hold, searchers prepared to again head up the 11,239-foot mountain on Monday seeking the two remaining climbers.

    Family members had relied on an intense religious faith along with confidence that the extensive mountaineering experience of the trio would save them from a week of blizzard storms and single-digit temperatures that kept search teams and helicopters at bay on the treacherous north side of Oregon’s highest mountain.

    Pete Hughes, of the Hood River County sheriff’s office, the lead agency in the search, said Monday’s effort would center on possible descent routes on Eliot Glacier and Cooper Spur, relatively lower levels of the mountain, in case the other two got down that far.

    James' body remained on the mountain Sunday night because darkness made it too dangerous to retrieve.

    Two snow caves found
    Searchers found a snow cave Sunday near the spot located by cell phone signals traced from James, who made a four-minute call to his family Dec. 10 just below the summit.

    He told his family the climbing party was in trouble and that the other two had headed back down, apparently for help. He may have been injured.

    The body was found in a second snow cave near the first, about 300 feet below the summit. Rescuers found two ice axes, a sleeping bag or pad and rope in the first. It was not known if any gear was in the second cave.

    “We remain hopeful,” said Capt. Mike Braibish, spokesman for the Oregon National Guard. “We are going to still collect information and pursue the rescue of the two other climbers.”

    Near the first snow cave, helicopters had spotted rope that had been intentionally laid out in a Y-shape, which climbers often use to indicate their location. There also was an ice spike and footprints, apparently headed up the mountain, said Sgt. Gerry Tiffany, a spokesman for the Hood River County sheriff’s office.

    Searchers dug through the first cave to ensure no one was there and took the equipment, which will be examined for clues. The second cave with the climber’s body was found a short time later.

    It was not immediately clear which cave was occupied first, or why or when the climber, or climbers, decided to move from it.

    Harsh conditions
    Weather conditions have been harsh since the three were reporting missing, with heavy snow and wind gusts of up to 100 mph. The snow stopped Saturday, but wind of up to 50 mph blew the fresh snow, hampering visibility.

    There has been no communication since a week ago Sunday when James made the cell phone call, and none since the climb began from Brian Hall, 37, also of Dallas, or Jerry “Nikko” Cooke, 36, of New York City.

    Braibish said Sunday that the families gathered here had been told that one fatality was confirmed but that there was no positive identification.

    “Our hearts are going out to the families right now,” said Braibish.
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    mountain climbing in December... not the best idea...
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    Yea, these assclowns got the top story in local news when a Ft. Worth officer was killed LOD. BULL SHIT. Oh, how I hate the media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TXCOP View Post
    Yea, these assclowns got the top story in local news when a Ft. Worth officer was killed LOD. BULL SHIT. Oh, how I hate the media.
    I saw that in the ODMP and I am very sorry to hear it. I was watching a show last night on Discovery about MT. Everest and the mountain is littered with frozen bodies. People keep climbing it and dying, I don't get it. So I agree with you Nite, climbing a Mountain in Oregon in December is retarded. What do you think is going to happen?? I don't feel sorry for them.
    Sad that these dumbasses get more coverage than a down officer.
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    I'm sorry, but these guys know the risks that they are taking, and for them to risk the lives of others so they can get a thrill is a selfish move. If your "hobby" can get you killed, accept that as a consequence and don't expect someone else to bail your Dumb-Ass out.
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    Soon to be a Lifetime movie.

    I wonder how many of these guys belong to their local SAR? Probably none.
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    Oh, I'm sure it's gonna be made into a movie. Some dude in Hollywierd is already working on it. Too bad that something like this is better movie material than the thousands of heroic acts done by cops every day.

 

 

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