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    Kid Breaks Into The Wrong House

    Off-Duty Officer Kills Alleged Teen Intruder
    Police To Hold Roundtable Discussion

    POSTED: 1:51 pm CST January 30, 2007
    UPDATED: 4:18 pm CST January 30, 2007

    CHICAGO -- A teenager allegedly broke into an off-duty officer’s home Tuesday afternoon in the Gresham neighborhood and was fatally shot when the officer confronts him.

    Now, a Chicago police roundtable discussion is under way.

    The shooting occurred at 123 Nunyabidness Street, according to Fire Media Affairs Assistant Director Eve Rodriguez.

    At about 8:30 a.m., an off-duty Gresham District officer, still in uniform, was returning home from work when he found his back door ajar and his home burglarized, said police News Affairs Director Monique Bond. The officer, an 11-year veteran , entered his home and heard voices. The officer announced himself as an officer before he used his service weapon to shoot the man , who was believed to be armed and reaching into his pocket , Bond said.

    "The officer was in fear of his life," she said.

    Police believe there may have been a second person in the home who fled when he heard the officer entering, Bond said. Police recovered a knife from the scene.

    The injured male suspect was taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn in critical condition, Rodriguez said. The Cook County Medical Examiner's office said a 15-year-old, whose name was not released, died of gunshot wounds at Christ Medical Center at 9:55 a.m.

    "We are not releasing the age or identity of the suspected intruder pending notification of a legal guardian," Bond said.

    No one else was at home at the time of the shooting and no one else was injured, Bond said.

    A roundtable discussion was being conducted Tuesday afternoon to determine if the off-duty officer followed state and departmental guidelines in his use of force, she said.



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    Sounds like a good shoot from the story. But Im sure someone will bring the age of the dirtbag, and chastise the officer for it.
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    Love those Round Tables. What is the common consesus on how to deal with this? What are the political reprecussions, not that the officer did right. Lets hope the Officer is cleared. Sounds good to me.

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    Yep. Sounds like a proper response to me.
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    good for that officer!!!!
    I have arrested the same darn two brats for burglaries 3 times now and Im tired of it!
    they go to the juvenile center, get a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, watch tv and go home....

    really frustrating.
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    I wasn't there but it sounds legit so far. I hope the Officer gets cleared. Oh...and...nice shot!
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    I love how they kept saying 'teen' instead of 'burglar' or 'armed thief' - 15 year old boys are often adult sized and have no control, and don't feel they need it. Worst they'd get is a slap on the wrist.

    I hope the officer gets cleared and doesn't let it bother him.
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    I can't believe they published his address. I'd be pissed.

    As for the shooting: from the info I read, it sounds like a justified shoot.

    "Stupid should hurt."

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    I remember being in Kosovo and Bosnia looking at the 8 and 9 year old boys as they played with sticks acting like they were shooting each other. As soon as they put those sticks down and picked up a weapon, they were combatants..age didnt matter anymore.

    Just because a person is only a teen doesnt change the matter. They would more likely try to do something rash as opposed to an adult due to the fact that they can possibly get away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Warrior View Post
    I can't believe they published his address. I'd be pissed.

    As for the shooting: from the info I read, it sounds like a justified shoot.
    Not real address... read it out loud.

    Oh yeah, they will try to blame the officer given turd's age and of course was the officer really in fear for his life??
    They probably expected the officer to retreat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gozling View Post
    good for that officer!!!!
    I have arrested the same darn two brats for burglaries 3 times now and Im tired of it!
    they go to the juvenile center, get a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, watch tv and go home....

    really frustrating.
    Next time print the above article and staple it to their foreheads.

    "Stupid should hurt."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Growler View Post
    Not real address... read it out loud.
    I changed it to say that, you saw the moderated version.

    "Stupid should hurt."

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    Yea, there will be a line of folks that are screaming "he was a good boy, he did not deserve this." "Oh my god, how could this happen?"
    "What, that POS Cop shot his dog too, oh lord?" "He liked sports and played video games....!"

    Oh, well, bet the little shit don't rob another cop, whos a taker?
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    Good one by the Poleeces. Here is the deal with the round table we have to go to them no matter what when it involves a shooting. it is made up of a board of police and civilians you and your attorney.
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    This is Chicago you're talking about, they're not normal. I'll bet the officer goes through hell.

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    Two things:

    1. Why don’t they have a round table for the perp pos?
    2. Time for the Castle Doctrine to come up from Florida.


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    Actually been to one they arent bad at all. They look at the reports, they ask your side of the story and thats it. One of the guys on my team was in a shooting I handled the paper and so on, so when he went in I sat at the door and listened, very painless.
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    Dumb kid,,,

    break in house,,,, got shot,,, now you are dead,, YOU LOST
    Sounds like the officer was justified

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    we have something similar to the "castle doctrine" here... We call it (not officially) the "Make My Day" law

    Without looking it up again for the exact verbage, it basically states that a homeowner can use deadly force against an intruder whenever someone breaks in with the intent to commit a crime, and the homeowner reasonably believes that the shithead may use any force (no matter how slight) agains any occupant.

    I doubt it is very hard to justify the "reasonable belief" that the badguy might use any force

 

 

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