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02-12-07, 11:48 PM #1
SALT LAKE CITY: Gunman Fires, Deaths Reported In Mall
POSTED: 9:36 pm CST February 12, 2007
UPDATED: 10:09 pm CST February 12, 2007
SALT LAKE CITY -- Police have reported a shooting rampage at a mall in Salt Lake City.
Police say a gunman entered the mall and started randomly shooting. Several people were hit by gunfire before the shooter was killed.
A police detective said there are "some fatalities" but didn't confirm how many. [CNN is reporting 5; Fox reporting 4 killed]
A store owner said he saw a man in a trench coat exchanging gunfire with police.
The violence happened southeast of downtown at a two-story mall that was once a trolley barn.
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02-12-07, 11:52 PM #2
SALT LAKE CITY - A gunman entered a shopping mall and began randomly shooting Monday night, injuring or killing several people before he was killed, police said.
"There have been multiple victims and there are some fatalities. ... I can't confirm the number," police Detective Robin Snyder said outside the Trolley Square Mall.
"The suspect has been killed," she said.
At least four people were hospitalized, three in critical condition and one in serious condition, hospital spokespeople said. Two of the critically injured were males ages 16 and 50, a spokesman said.
Authorities offered few details but said the gunman entered the mall about 6:45 p.m. MST, Snyder said.
Antique store owner Barrett Dodds, 29, said he saw a man in a trench coat exchanging gunfire with a police officer outside a card store. The gunman was backed into a children's clothing store, he said.
"I saw the cops go in the store. I saw the shooter go down," said Dodds, who watched from the second floor.
Barb McKeown, 60, of Washington, D.C., was in another antique shop when two frantic women ran in and reported gunshots.
"Then we heard shot after shot after shot — loud, loud, loud," said McKeown, saying she heard about 20. She and three other people hid under a staircase until it was safe to leave.
Many employees and shoppers — "a lot of scared people" — were still inside the mall about two hours after the shootings, hunkered down and waiting for a police escort, Snyder said.
"This is a huge area to cover," she said.
Streets were blocked outside the mall as police swarmed the scene. Dozens of people lingered on the sidewalk, many wrapped in blankets as they talked about what they had seen inside.
The two-story mall, southeast of downtown, is a refurbished trolley barn, with a series of winding hallways and about 80 stores.No one has greater love than this, to lay down ones life for ones friends - John 15:13
"The Wicked Flee When No Man Pursueth: But The Righteous Are Bold As A Lion".
We lucky few, we band of brothers. For he who today sheds his blood with me shall be my brother.
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02-13-07, 04:28 PM #3
Officer called hero after Utah rampage
He fired at teen who killed five, wounded four in mall
The Associated Press
Updated: 3:56 p.m. ET Feb 13, 2007
SALT LAKE CITY - An off-duty officer celebrating an early Valentine's Day with his wife repeatedly fired at a gunman who killed five people and wounded four at a shopping mall and "saved the lives" of numerous others, the police chief said Tuesday.
The 18-year-old gunman was killed in a shootout with police Monday night.
"He had one thing in mind and that was to kill a large number of people," Salt Lake City Chief Chris Burbank said.
"Heroic efforts by an off-duty officer distracted him and contained him in a position until officers arrived and actually resolved the situation," Burbank said.
The off-duty officer's "quick actions saved the lives of numerous other people," the chief said.
The gunman was identified as Sulejmen Talovic, who had a backpack full of ammunition, a shotgun and a .38-caliber pistol, police said. A motive still was unknown.
"We know very little, other than he was a resident [of] Salt Lake City and was 18 years old," the chief said.
No motive yet
Detectives were still trying to determine what sparked Talovic's rampage at the Trolley Square shopping mall on Monday night.
Card store Cabin Fever had been packed with Valentine’s Day shoppers when the shooting started, said owner David Dean. He said his assistant manager called him, saying “someone’s in the store killing people.”
The place was “all shot up” when he saw it Tuesday, and Dean said he believed three or four of the victims died had died inside.
As investigators began interviewing the 100 to 200 witnesses, people placed candles and flowers at two memorials outside the mall for the victims. Business owners surveyed the damage, and shoppers who had fled returned to pick up cars they had to leave parked overnight.
Marie Smith, 23, a Bath & Body Works manager, said she had seen the gunman through the store window. She watched as he raised his gun and fired at a young woman approaching him from behind.
‘An Average Joe’ explodes
“His expression stayed totally calm. He didn’t seem upset, or like he was on a rampage,” said Smith, who crawled to an employee restroom to hide with others. He looked like “an average Joe,” she said.
Killed in the attack were two 28-year-old women, a 52-year-old man, a 24-year-old man and a 15-year-old girl, Snyder said. Four people were hospitalized — a man and a woman in critical condition and two men in serious condition, Snyder said.
For hours after the rampage, police searched stores for scared, shocked shoppers and employees who were hunkered down awaiting a safe escort.
Matt Lund was visiting his wife, Barbara, manager of the Secret Garden children’s clothing store, when he heard the first shots. The couple and three others hid in a storage room for about 40 minutes, isolated but still able to hear the violence.
Victims briefly treated like suspects
“We heard them say, ’Police! Drop your weapon!’ Then we heard shotgun fire. Then there was a barrage of gunfire,” said Lund, 44. “It was hard to believe.”
Witnesses said officers treated everyone like suspects — ordering those hiding in storerooms, bathrooms or under stairwells, to lie on the floor with their hands on their heads until police were sure no one posed a threat.
On the way out, Lund said, he saw a woman’s body face-down at the entrance to Pottery Barn Kids and a man’s body on the floor in the mall’s east-west corridor. “There were a lot of blown-out store windows and shotgun shell casings all over the floor,” Lund said. “It was quite surreal.”
The victims were found throughout the 239,000-square-foot shopping mall.
Outside, streets were blocked as police swarmed the four-block scene. Dozens of people lingered on the sidewalk, many wrapped in blankets, as they talked about what they had seen inside.
The two-story mall, southeast of downtown, is a refurbished trolley barn built in 1908, with a series of winding hallways, brick floors, wrought-iron balconies and about 80 stores, including high-end retailers such as Williams-Sonoma and restaurants such as the Hard Rock Cafe.
Antiques store owner Barrett Dodds, 29, said he saw a man in a trench coat exchanging gunfire with a police officer outside a card store. The gunman, he said, was backed into a children’s clothing store.
“I saw the shooter go down,” said Dodds, who watched from the second floor.
Four police officers — one an off-duty officer from Ogden and three Salt Lake City officers — were involved in the shootout with the gunman, Snyder said. She provided no other details.
Barb McKeown, 60, of Washington, D.C., was in another antiques shop when two frantic women ran in and reported gunshots.
“Then we heard shot after shot after shot — loud, loud, loud,” said McKeown, saying she heard about 20. She and three other people hid under a staircase until it was safe to leave.
Mall owners respond
The mall was purchased in August by Scanlan Kemper Bard Cos. of Portland, Ore., from Simon Property Group for $38.6 million. The company said it planned to invest $80 million, attract a new anchor tenant and possibly add condominiums.
“We are devastated and shocked by this senseless, random act of violence and tragedy at Trolley Square, owner Tom Bard said in a statement posted on the KSL-TV Web site. “At this time our greatest concern and prayers are with the victims, their families and loved ones.”We are the thin blue line
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02-13-07, 08:20 PM #4
It's terrible that so many others have to suffer because of this kids bad decision. So senseless...Calm Like A Bomb...
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02-13-07, 11:00 PM #5
I have an idea... for some publicity to emphasize how important Off-Duty Carry is, and to thank President Bush for spearheading this law that saved these people!!!
If LEF had a petition drive to collect as many of our electronic signatures as possible and present them to this officer, plus a free lifetime membership and a small cash prize, and sent what we're doing to as many news sites as possible (including blogger & MySpace), then it is very possible that off-duty carry would come to more agencies who now forbid it!!!
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02-14-07, 06:55 AM #6
Didn't realize some departments forbid off-duty carry. They don't make us carry off duty but it is highly recommended in our policy manual.
02-14-07, 07:35 AM #7
Yes, again another great reminder that we are never off duty, and that we should always been mentally prepared to face adversity. I have been involved in two mall homicides during my career. The first was in December 1996, and I was actually at the mall shopping and was the first officer on scene with a buddy of mine. The chaos is incredible, and judgement and decision making is imperative. I give credit to the off duty officer who intervened in this incident for doing the right thing, as we all would have done. My second event occured this past December, when our SWAT team was called out for a mall homicide on Christmas Eve. I think the Utah shooting once again proves that violence can happen anywhere and at anytime, and we have to be ready to act without hesitation.
02-14-07, 10:18 AM #8
I actually almost got a job with a PD that forbid probationary officers from carrying off duty. It was a small city where everyone knew everybody and I'm sure every dirtbag knew or could find out the policy. So for fifteen months you could only protect yourself and your family from people you locked up with anything but your firearm. I look at it this way, if you're sworn and given the privilege of protecting the public while in uniform why not when you're out of it? What's better than a bunch of good guys walking around packing heat. Maybe the bad guys would think twice the next time they opened up in a mall. I haven't followed up but I hope that PD revised their policy. Fortunately I now work for a department that doesn't look negatively at officers carrying off duty and we have lots of guys that work off-duty gigs who carry. Just a thought.
02-15-07, 06:59 PM #9
Here is the first video footage of the shooting. It was taken by an ameteur cameraman. http://kutv.com/topstories/local_story_044000331.htmlSpeeder: Why don't you give me a warning instead of a ticket.
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