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    It Started with a Torso

    Yesterday, they found a torso in the river...it appears that other parts have been discovered along the freeway.

    Body parts found along Interstate 5
    By Greg Gross
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    9:15 a.m. February 27, 2007

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    SAN DIEGO – A tow truck driver discovered a human head in a trash bag alongside Interstate 5 Tuesday morning, police said.

    Moments later, police said a hand was found about three miles away near I-5 and state Route 163.

    The freeway service patrol driver was heading south on Interstate 5 about 6:30 a.m. when he pulled off on the right shoulder and stopped just south of 28th Street on-ramp. He then noticed a black plastic bag lying against the asphalt curve.

    The driver picked up the bag, looked inside and saw the human head.

    Nothing else belonging to the man was found.

    While detectives were investigating that discovery, police found a severed hand along southbound 163 ramp to southbound I-5. They closed a lane of the highway for the investigation.

    The face appears to that of the man whose image was caught by a grocery store surveillance camera, and is believed to be the homicide victim whose dismembered body was discovered Monday morning in a culvert off Hollister Street in Palm City, said San Diego police Lt. Kevin Rooney.

    Rooney said investigators don't know who the man is.

    On Monday, two workmen trying to find their way to a job site discovered the rest of the body. They had pulled off the street to consult a road map and noticed the remains, partly immersed in the Otay River, as they pulled away.

    San Diego lifeguards removed the clothed body and searched for evidence. Investigators said it had some parts missing.

    Later in the day, police released security camera images of what they believe is the victim taken inside a supermarket.

    A time and date stamp on the image indicates it was taken at 4:38 p.m. Friday. The man, possibly in his 60s, was white, balding, with a mustache and glasses.

    Authorities have closed the slow lane of south I-5 and the 28th Street on-ramp while they conduct their investigation.
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    I used to lve in San Diego

    Quote Originally Posted by PDawg View Post
    Yesterday, they found a torso in the river...it appears that other parts have been discovered along the freeway.
    Now I no why I moved back to Mi!! What the hell is wrong with people!!! I guess nothing ever surprises me anymore.

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    Interesting way to end someone.
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    Sounds like they were trying to delay the ID of the body by severing hands and head. No dental records, no fingerprints. But they could have been a bit more subtle about hiding the critical bits. Wonder how the victim managed to piss someone off that badly? Or if the killer was just scared and trying to ditch evidence while they gets as far away as they can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ducky View Post
    Sounds like they were trying to delay the ID of the body by severing hands and head. No dental records, no fingerprints. But they could have been a bit more subtle about hiding the critical bits. Wonder how the victim managed to piss someone off that badly? Or if the killer was just scared and trying to ditch evidence while they gets as far away as they can.
    It's hard to say Ducky...it appears the victim is a local transient. They still haven't located his legs, but the hand was in good enough condition that they can get prints.

    What's weird, is the video footage has him in the South Bay area on Friday, and that's the area they found his torso. The other parts were found well to the north, but along south-bound freeways.
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    hmm, possibly the victim got taken where the killer felt safe the deed or for cutting him up, (home range to the north?) then headed back south dropping parts as he went to help disguise where it happened.

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    They have identified the victim, but have not released the name pending notification of the family. It sounds like he was a well recognized transient in a couple parts of town.

    They also released cause of death....he was shot.
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    Arrest made - still no motive

    Motive behind dismembering a mystery

    Suspect, victim described as friendly, acquaintances

    By Greg Gross, Debbi Baker and Joe Hughes
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    March 2, 2007

    SAN DIEGO – Police have found the head, the hand and a suspect. Now they're looking for a motive.

    Acting on a tip, investigators arrested a 61-year-old former porn shop worker yesterday in the shooting death of a homeless man whose head and hand were later dismembered.

    Gerald Michael Nash was taken into custody about 5:20 a.m. at his home behind the South Bay adult book store that once employed him, San Diego police Lt. Jeff Sferra said.

    The arrest came about two miles from where the torso of Allen Burton Hawes, 57, was found Monday in an Otay River tributary.

    A tow truck driver discovered Hawes' head in a plastic bag on the shoulder of Interstate 5 near the 28th Street on-ramp a day later. Less than three hours after that, a Caltrans crew found one of Hawes' hands on the side of state Route 163.

    Police and others described Nash and Hawes as acquaintances.

    Detectives would say little about the circumstances of the arrest or the relationship between Nash and Hawes. They stressed the investigation was still in the early stages.

    Nash was arrested without incident, police Sgt. Kerry Tom said. Investigators also impounded two sedans and a van at his home.
    If they know, detectives are not saying when Hawes was shot or how and when he was dismembered.

    Police said they knew little about Nash, whom acquaintances described as quiet and polite. Details about Hawes began to emerge yesterday, one day after his remains were identified.

    Hawes was an avid Boston Red Sox fan with family on the East Coast. Among San Diego's homeless community, he was well-known and well-liked.

    He sometimes slept in the San Diego River bed near Old Town, a back yard in Banker's Hill and even the adult movie theater where Nash worked, acquaintances said.

    Hawes collected cans and spare change, and was a familiar face at Old Town Recycling on Hancock Street. Employees there said he last came by with several bags filled with cans about a month ago.

    Bill Dawdee, an acquaintance at the center, said he once shared space with Hawes in a transient encampment called Edge City, under I-5 near Mission Bay Park.

    “He was no trouble. We got along in our own quiet way,” Dawdee said. “Al loved the streets.”

    In fact, homicide Lt. Kevin Rooney said there was one constant from the many friends of Hawes' who called police to help in the investigation.

    “They all said what a nice guy he was,” Rooney said.

    Those who knew Nash said the same.

    Nash until recently worked at Ever So Naughty, an adult theater and video rental store on Palm Avenue in Egger Highlands and lived in the house in the back with a roommate who also worked at the store, said store manager Joe Bergmann.

    Nash worked the graveyard shift and had been there for five years before he walked in one day in December and “up and quit,” Bergmann said.

    The manager said he thought Nash was a retired Air Force veteran. He described him as a quiet, intelligent man.

    “He's a nice guy. It's hard for me to believe this,” Bergmann said.

    Nash also worked as a security guard elsewhere while he was at the adult store, Bergmann said.

    Bergmann said Hawes used to come by the store about one night a week. “He would sleep in one of the seats in a small theater we have here,” he said.

    The store manager said he hadn't seen Nash for about two weeks nor Hawes for about a year.

    At the nearby Jalisco Cafe, owner Alex Corradino said Nash came by Monday night about 8:30.

    Corradino said Nash was a regular for more than 10 years.

    When last he stopped by, Nash “was quite calm and he ate his regular favorite dish – caldo de res – and he tipped the waitress,” Corradino said.

    He said Nash would usually sit in a corner and eat his meal and read a newspaper or a magazine. “He would never complain about anything.”

    A court search found no felonies in Nash's name.

    Yesterday, Nash, hunched and limping as he was brought in to police headquarters in downtown San Diego, was taken to a hospital for a medical evaluation. Police said he would be booked on suspicion of murder.

    Bergmann could not explain why Nash appeared to be limping and hunched over when he was brought to the station.

    Sferra said police are still searching for Hawes' remains.
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    Police said they knew little about Nash, whom acquaintances described as quiet and polite
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    He described him as a quiet, intelligent man.
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    “He's a nice guy. It's hard for me to believe this,”
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    “He would never complain about anything.”
    Is there some weekend course I'm supposed to take so I know what to say if someone I met turns out to be a murderer? It's almost like there's a script.

    On second thought I'll just avoid any critters emerging from news vans with microphones.

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    Is it me, or does this whole thing sound like an episode of CSI?
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    I think they may have found the victim's legs...not sure yet.

    And yes, this is freakin' weird!
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