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    More squad cars to get cameras
    City to spend $2.2 mil. to equip 280 vehicles for traffic stops


    March 16, 2007
    BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter
    Another 280 Chicago Police squad cars will be equipped with video cameras -- for $2.2 million -- expanding an experiment that began with allegations that a sergeant mistreated state Sen. James Meeks.

    The 280 cameras will bring to 310 the number installed in squad cars to record traffic stops. That's enough to equip a beat car in every one of the city's police beats.

    At a news conference at McCormick Place that followed a police graduation ceremony, Mayor Daley said he hopes to find the money to equip the rest of the police fleet "as quickly as possible."

    The Police Department has 1,773 marked cars and 1,354 unmarked vehicles. The 30-car pilot program that started last fall was confined to marked cars patrolling Lake Shore Drive, the Chicago Skyway, the Northwest Side's Jefferson Park District and the Far South Side's Pullman District, where Meeks said he was a victim of racial profiling in July 2005.

    Used as evidence in 10 cases
    The sergeant was reprimanded for using foul language. Meek's chauffeur paid a fine for traffic violations.

    Each squad car is equipped with two cameras that can either be activated manually or automatically when emergency lights are turned on. One camera records anyone in the back seat. The other is mounted on the windshield and faces forward. The officer carries a microphone the size of a beeper that records sounds within 1,000 feet of the vehicle. Real-time audio and video can be transmitted back to the district station.

    Already, the cameras have provided evidence in 10 court cases, including video of a Christmas Day hit-and-run that was shown to reporters Thursday and prompted a guilty plea.

    Squad car cameras are widely viewed as a deterrent against police misconduct, but it's a two-way street. They also shield honest, professional officers from unwarranted citizen complaints, Daley said.

    'They know the camera's on'
    "A lot of police officers do a tremendous job and they get C.R. numbers [complaints registered]. The complainant never shows up, so it's unfounded. You say, 'Gee, he had 25 unfounded C.R. numbers. What's wrong with him?' There's nothing wrong with him. If we had this [camera system], we'll prove it," Daley said.

    Like a head football coach who cleans up his act on the sidelines while wearing a microphone, the cameras may also prompt police officers to be more polite and avoid profanity.

    "They should be doing that anyway, but now they know the camera's on," said Police Supt. Phil Cline.

    But Daley warned, "When you're stopping a car at 2 o'clock in the morning, I don't care who you are. It's very frightening. . . . They can't go up there just smiling and happy. These are very serious situations."

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    I could think of 10 million other things to spend that money on instead of cameras to please some ghetto minister/senator. My car is Computerless as well as every car on our 18 man team because there aren't enough. My "new" car has 83K on it, may not sound like a lot but that is 83k of hard city driving. My last car had 175k, it finally died. Our stations are deplorable the equipment we have in the stations is as well. Our office is equipped with 3 1999 HP computers. That blow. We have 18 men on the team and if more than one car has an arrest it takes forever because there isn't enough. Our stations have roaches the size of hummers. The pissers backed up, overflowed into the locker room and out into the hall the other day. We need cameras though. Yes we need cameras so that we don't bad talk to the "fine" citizens of the ghettos, because that is the only places these cameras are. -Rant over
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro56 View Post
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    I could think of 10 million other things to spend that money on instead of cameras to please some ghetto minister/senator. My car is Computerless as well as every car on our 18 man team because there aren't enough. My "new" car has 83K on it, may not sound like a lot but that is 83k of hard city driving. My last car had 175k, it finally died. Our stations are deplorable the equipment we have in the stations is as well. Our office is equipped with 3 1999 HP computers. That blow. We have 18 men on the team and if more than one car has an arrest it takes forever because there isn't enough. Our stations have roaches the size of hummers. The pissers backed up, overflowed into the locker room and out into the hall the other day. We need cameras though. Yes we need cameras so that we don't bad talk to the "fine" citizens of the ghettos, because that is the only places these cameras are. -Rant over


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    I don't see what the big deal is. Cameras help us make good cases, and as long as you don't do anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
    I don't see what the big deal is. Cameras help us make good cases, and as long as you don't do anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about.
    the thing is our city is ass backwards. instead of providing us with updated equipment i.e. new cars, new radios, new computers, and new p.d.t's. they are spending money on stuff we dont need right now. i'm all for cameras in the cars they are a great tool. the city is just buying these cameras to please some state senator who thought he could talk his way out of a ticket for his driver/bodyguard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bird1 View Post
    the thing is our city is ass backwards. instead of providing us with updated equipment i.e. new cars, new radios, new computers, and new p.d.t's. they are spending money on stuff we dont need right now. i'm all for cameras in the cars they are a great tool. the city is just buying these cameras to please some state senator who thought he could talk his way out of a ticket for his driver/bodyguard.

    +1...I feel for you guys. I grew up in Chicago, up north near Broadway and Hawthorne, then later near North and Wells. While I enjoyed the city, my hat's off to the cops that work a beat in some of Chicago's rough areas...Cabrini and near Cominsky come to mind. You guys need more cops and better equipment, not cams.
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    I think the cameras are a good thing, however after hearing what you guys have said already it really seems like other things should be bought with that money first...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 121Traffic View Post
    +1...I feel for you guys. I grew up in Chicago, up north near Broadway and Hawthorne, then later near North and Wells. While I enjoyed the city, my hat's off to the cops that work a beat in some of Chicago's rough areas...Cabrini and near Cominsky come to mind. You guys need more cops and better equipment, not cams.
    Lol, Thanks for the compliment, but I it must be awhile since you have been here, around Comiskey is almost all Bridgeport deigo Yuppy, and Cabrini has maybe 2 buildings left. As far as Cameras go, most of our policies are very restrictive, with the cameras they will screw the little guy more. These cameras can see back as well, so here it goes, wanna read the paper? Thats a spar, and they have you on camera, wanna doze while your partner eats lunch? Thats a spar and they have you on camera. "Just Following the offender in the car" "Only going 35 Squad", now its on camera, thats a day or 2.I am anti Camera, and will remain that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro56 View Post
    Lol, Thanks for the compliment, but I it must be awhile since you have been here, around Comiskey is almost all Bridgeport deigo Yuppy, and Cabrini has maybe 2 buildings left. As far as Cameras go, most of our policies are very restrictive, with the cameras they will screw the little guy more. These cameras can see back as well, so here it goes, wanna read the paper? Thats a spar, and they have you on camera, wanna doze while your partner eats lunch? Thats a spar and they have you on camera. "Just Following the offender in the car" "Only going 35 Squad", now its on camera, thats a day or 2.I am anti Camera, and will remain that way.
    Hahahaha really? I went to military school when I was 14, and came home on breaks, etc., but we lived in NW suburban outskirts. Near Lincolnwood. That was 11 years ago.
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    We have cameras in all of our squads and I have no problem with them. It seems that the priorities of the C.P.D. are messed up. If the rest of your equipment is crappy, and in disrepair, that should be a priority. Giving you a good place to work should be a priority. More cops on the street should be a priority. Supporting the cops on the street should be THE priority.
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