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04-05-07, 09:43 AM #1
Three strikes yer out.
Man Who Burned Son Gets 25-To-Life Term
By KIM CURTIS, Associated Press Writer
Wed Apr 4, 8:30 PM
SAN FRANCISCO - A man who severely burned his 6-year-old son in a custody dispute more than two decades ago was sentenced to 25 years to life in prison on a weapons charge Wednesday under California's "three strikes" law.
A lighter sentence against Charley Charles, formerly Charles Rothenberg, had been thrown out by an appeals court that found his attempted murder and arson convictions in the 1983 case amounted to two strikes against him, not one, as the defense maintained.
San Francisco Superior Court Judge Cynthia Ming-Mei Lee said Charles, 66, was the "kind of individual for whom the three strikes law was passed."
She cited Charles' lengthy criminal record, which dates to 1958 and includes multiple felony convictions in three states for robbery, forgery and weapon charges.
"There really has been no substantial time period where the defendant has been law-abiding," Lee said.
In 1983, Charles took his son to a Southern California motel room, gave the boy a sleeping pill, doused the room with kerosene and lit the fuel before leaving. David Rothenberg, who has changed his name to Dave Dave, suffered burns over 90 percent of his body and was severely disfigured.
Charles, who said he was distraught about losing the boy to his wife in a custody battle, served seven years for attempted murder and arson. The relatively light sentence drew outrage and helped pave the way for stricter sentencing guidelines.
At issue Wednesday was Charles' 2005 conviction for being a felon in possession of a handgun and ammunition. Lee gave Charles seven years after ruling that the 1983 convictions count as only one strike, but the 1st District Court of Appeal overturned that decision in January.
Defense lawyer Gabriel Basson argued the crime should be considered one strike because it involved "a single act and a single victim."
Basson also called the arson a "moment of madness." Lee, however, said the crime "defines who the defendant is."
Charles has two pending cases against him. He's accused of committing financial fraud against three victims and making threats against prosecutor Shay Matthews. Outside the courtroom, Matthews said justice had finally been served in the case.
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04-05-07, 10:07 AM #2
Ok, so whats with them changing there names to Charley Charles and Dave Dave?He who has the money, signs the cheques.
He who signs the cheques, makes the rules.
He who makes the rules, has the power.
He who has the power, has the money.
04-05-07, 10:27 AM #3
apparently stupid stupid must have been taken.
I agree this guy needs to be put away for a long time."An Unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper
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04-05-07, 11:31 AM #4
I would have sentenced him to be burned to death slowly.The day you are born is the day you start to die.
Sometimes there is JUSTICE. Sometimes there is JUST US!!!
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04-06-07, 01:44 AM #5
I would first shoot out both of his knee caps, then take a piece of hot steel rod and shove it up his ass. Then I would tie him up and take a cattle brand and slowly press it on the bottom of his bare feet. I hope this man gets every minute of punishment he deserves!"In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on."
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04-06-07, 05:23 PM #6
At age 66 he is just going to be a further burden on society got about 10 years,but at least he will only be abel to hurt and defraud his "roomie".Of course I give it 5 years before he files a lawsuit for some special privlige(sp).
04-07-07, 02:16 AM #7
i agree with stokerress,YEAH, IM THE BERRIES, AND CHERRIES IN YOUR REAR VIEW MIRROR.
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04-07-07, 05:54 AM #8
Laser exfoliation followed by immersion in an acid bath...
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