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    Question Dallas County Sheriff's outside hire plan stalled

    This sounds like such a dumb mess...
    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.339f0d6.html

    Dallas County: Since Valdez's 2006 announcement, only 5 of 36 new deputies were external recruits

    10:25 PM CDT on Sunday, June 24, 2007
    By KEVIN KRAUSE / The Dallas Morning News
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    The Dallas County Sheriff's Department announced a big change in hiring in 2002.

    For the first time since 1981, the department said, it would begin looking outside for deputies instead of exclusively promoting jailers.

    But that never happened. Jailers who wanted the opportunity to become deputies objected, effectively derailing the plan.


    Lupe Valdez became sheriff in 2005, and in May 2006, her spokesman made the same announcement – the sheriff would begin recruiting deputies from the outside to find more experienced and qualified candidates for a growing freeway patrol initiative.

    It was easier said than done.


    Sheriff Lupe Valdez

    Only five of at least 36 deputies hired since the announcement were from outside the department, and three of them previously worked as Dallas County jailers.

    Some blame that number on lackluster recruiting efforts. Other reasons cited are poor pay and benefits as well as a requirement that all recruits, even experienced peace officers, go through the department's academy.

    Dr. Mattye Mauldin-Taylor, the county's human resources director in charge of recruiting and hiring for the Sheriff's Department, said recruiting has largely consisted of placing newspaper advertisements.

    She said people may still believe the county sheriff only hires from within. But she didn't believe pay was a big issue.

    Her office and sheriff labor organizations disagree about the quality of pay at the department.

    Dr. Mauldin-Taylor said she conducts a salary study each year, using a formula agreed upon by county commissioners and the labor associations.

    That involves averaging the pay of about 20 area cities and the largest counties.

    "I'm finding no major disparities in pay based on what the county said the formula should be for paying deputies," Dr. Mauldin-Taylor said.

    But the Dallas County Sheriff's Association has done its own salary studies that show Dallas County salaries rank at the bottom of surveyed agencies, said Stan Thedford, the group's president.

    The starting pay for a deputy is $41,059, while the Dallas Police Department starts officers at $41,690.

    But the Dallas police also offer a $10,000 hiring bonus.

    Mr. Thedford said while the sheriff's pay is close to Dallas police at the starting point, it begins to diverge as an officer moves up the pay scale. He said the association's salary study shows Dallas County pay rates are 12 percent behind other agencies in starting pay.

    The Sheriff's Department has about 375 deputies. It is now hiring to fill new positions added for its expanding freeway program. Deputies began patrolling freeways in the county's southern cities in 2001, and the department is currently working on an agreement with the city of Dallas to patrol its freeways. The department plans to eventually patrol freeways countywide.

    Small academy class

    But a deputy academy class that began in March doesn't have any outside applicants. In fact, it only has three students , all of whom work for different law enforcement agencies.

    Deputy classes typically hold up to 35 students. About that many jail guards had signed up to take the March class. But they were held back at the time because of a jail staffing crisis, said Capt. David Mitchell of the training and personnel division.

    The county jail has failed four state inspections in a row mainly because of a failure to meet the state's minimum staffing requirement of one guard for every 48 inmates.

    But because police departments in Highland Park, Lancaster and Duncanville had already reserved space in the academy class for their recruits, a decision was made to go forward with it, Capt. Mitchell said.

    To offset costs, the Sheriff's Department trains other police agencies' recruits for $1,300 a seat.

    "Because we already committed to these agencies, we elected to go along and hold the class," Capt. Mitchell said. "Peace officers can't do anything before they go to academy and take the [licensing] exam."

    The current class of three will graduate in August.

    Another deputy class is beginning July 9, Capt. Mitchell said. Three applicants who have already signed up are from outside the department and have no law enforcement experience, he said.

    Having a larger pool of deputy applicants to choose from is critical for Dallas County. [duhhh ]

    Every time the Sheriff's Department promotes a jailer to deputy, it creates a vacancy in the jail. With an already understaffed jail, that's the last thing the county needs.

    Civilian jailers

    Most other large sheriff's departments in Texas use sworn peace officers as jailers. Dallas County saves money using civilian jailers, known as detention service officers (DSOs), who are paid less – $31,158 to start – and don't carry firearms. And the county can hire them younger, beginning at age 19. Deputies must be at least 21.

    It's also quicker to train DSOs. Deputies have to undergo a six-month academy, while civilian jailers are trained in just four weeks.

    Many seek employment as jailers as a career path to becoming a deputy. So when a deputy test is announced, the department gets plenty of applicants from the jail.

    As a result, the county has never had to beef up its recruiting efforts for outside applicants. Nor has the county had to offer hiring bonuses like the Dallas police.

    So when the Sheriff's Department announced in 2002 that it would begin seeking applicants from outside the department, labor organizations objected, saying it wasn't fair to the jailers who were hired with the expectation of eventually being allowed to take the deputy test.

    "These people came to work here with the understanding that they had an opportunity," Mr. Thedford said.

    Changing the rules after 25 years wouldn't have been fair to them, he said. But they have since been given a chance to take the deputy test, and the association no longer opposes hiring from outside, he said.

    Capt. Mitchell said his bosses are evaluating whether to change the rule requiring that even experienced peace officers attend the academy. He said one alternative might be to offer those candidates a shorter refresher course like some other agencies do.

    It's not unusual for retired police officers to end up working for the Sheriff's Department as court bailiffs or chief deputies.

    But Senior Cpl. Eddie Crawford, vice president of the Dallas Police Association, said he hasn't heard of any Dallas officers leaving to become deputies.

    He said he wouldn't do so because of the academy requirement and the county's inferior retirement plan.

    "Absolutely not. You'd be starting over again," he said.

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    What do you expect? Lupe is too busy with lesbian past times for actual LE activity.
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    He is training with minimum food or water, in austere conditions, day and night.
    The only thing clean on him is his weapon.
    He doesn't worry about what workout to do---his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him.
    The True Believer doesn't care "how hard it is"; he knows he either wins or he dies.
    He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home.
    He knows only the Cause.
    Now, who wants to quit?"

    "I am only one, but I am one. I can not do everything, but I can do something. And because I can not do everything I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do I should do. And what I should do, by the Grace of God, I will do."

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    Lol - Did she ever pass her TCLEOSE test for her Texas LEO license? - I remember she failed the first time

    I think she was a Federal LEO before she got elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXCharlie View Post
    Lol - Did she ever pass her TCLEOSE test for her Texas LEO license? - I remember she failed the first time

    I think she was a Federal LEO before she got elected.
    Yes, and I'm sad to say that my chief helped her pass it.
    "Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you.
    He is training with minimum food or water, in austere conditions, day and night.
    The only thing clean on him is his weapon.
    He doesn't worry about what workout to do---his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him.
    The True Believer doesn't care "how hard it is"; he knows he either wins or he dies.
    He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home.
    He knows only the Cause.
    Now, who wants to quit?"

    "I am only one, but I am one. I can not do everything, but I can do something. And because I can not do everything I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do I should do. And what I should do, by the Grace of God, I will do."

    Edward Everett Hale

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    So for all you TX cops here let me ask. If I was to look for LEO employment in TX, what are the better depts?? What are the best cities?? Where should I look??

    I kind of think FL might be off the radar for a bit while this tax law and new budgets are being worked out.
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    San Antonio, Houston, Austin, Dallas/Ft worth, Mcallen RGV, and any subberb around those cities, plus the county sheriff of the prospective counties of those towns. There are too many to mention.

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    Thanks, is El Paso worth it too???
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