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    POLICEMAN BEATEN WITH OWN BATON

    11:00 - 11 September 2007

    A Police officer was beaten with his baton when he dropped it trying to arrest a man who was attacking a motorist.

    PC Gary Wilsdon is still being treated for an eye injury he suffered in the attack almost a year ago.

    He and five colleagues had gone to arrest Sneinton man Robert Gwaza, who had attacked a man changing a flat tyre.


    It took all six officers to subdue Gwaza, with one of them fearing PC Wilsdon would be killed, Nottingham Crown Court heard.

    PC Wilsdon said after the case: "I have no recollection of what happened during those few seconds. I lost a lot of blood and have a scar now as a constant reminder."

    Gwaza was found guilty of grievous bodily harm with intent on PC Wilsdon, actual bodily harm on another policeman and the man changing the tyre, and common assault on a third policeman.

    He was given an indeterminate sentence, set at a minimum of two-and-a-half years.

    Nottingham Evening Post


    I remember this incident happening I wasn't on duty at the time and they were down to below critical staffing, the serious nature of the injuries was a result of the delay in back up arriving it could have been worse if the officers had been different or a member of the public who was a highly trained martial artist hadn't got involved after the officer was hit with his own baton.
    The offender literally didn't feel pain he had to be physically bent up to get cuffs and restraints on him CS and pain complient holds didn't work.

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    What do your use of force rules say over there about a man with a baton striking an officer? Would an armed officer have been able to solve the problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maclean View Post
    What do your use of force rules say over there about a man with a baton striking an officer? Would an armed officer have been able to solve the problem?
    In this situation an armed officer would have been allowed to use tazer which were on the armed cars at the time of this incident.

    I don't know if they would have been allowed to use conventional firearms in this case.

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    So only the armed officers have access to the Tasers too?

    Yikes!

    I will never complain again about being forced to carry a one sized fits all firearm.

    At least until next week, anyhow!

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    Wow. Can we say shots fired children? You guys are some tough folks all the way around for doing what you do unarmed.
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    Lewis, I agree. I thought we had some pretty tough restrictions on use of force. I don't know how you Brits continue on with the conditions the way they are over there.

    Over here, the head is a deadly force target and a weapon like a baton being used on the head is a deadly force situation. If I didn't have five other PC's with me, I would have shot him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard Dave View Post
    I don't know if they would have been allowed to use conventional firearms in this case.

    I do. No chance, if batons were deadly weapons they wouldn't be issued.
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