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    Schwarzenegger Signs New Gun Law

    A new method of identifying gun-related crimes was signed into law on Saturday by California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. The Gun Crime Identification Act was passed by both the California State Assembly and the State Senate, and received the Governor's stamp of approval on order to provide police with a new tool at their disposal to determine which guns are involved in crimes.

    The Gun Crime Identification Act (AB 1471) will make it possible for police to identify the gun involved in a crime without the gun. The new law requires that guns will "microstamp" certain information on bullets fired by that gun, such as the serial number, so that the bullet will identify the gun used. This information will be available immediately to law enforcement officers, rather than first having to acquire the gun and comparing certain markings on the bullet casing that is unique to that gun. The new technology can result in faster and more accurate identification of perpetrators in many crimes that involve guns.

    The president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, Paul Helmke, applauds Governor Schwarzenegger for "taking a bold step to solve gun murders in California. This ground-breaking law gives police officers a powerful tool to apprehend armed criminals and gang members before they strike again." He continued, "The Governor has set a new national standard for the rest of the country to follow."

    The law will require all semi-automatic weapons manufactured and sold in California to "microstamp" the make, model and serial number of the gun on each bullet casing starting in 2010. The new technology will be most helpful in crimes where the only evidence available is the bullet casing, such as in the case of drive-by shootings that are common in gang-related crimes.






    IDIOTS do criminals legally buy firearms and ammunition All I can say is "PEOPLE FROM CALIFORNIA SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR FIREARMS" This wouldnt help cops one bit in solving anything, this is a ploy. Dont feel any safer by this tactic. Criminals dont use legal firearms, hell most if not all of them are not allowed by law to even look at a gun. I hold a FFL and in my catalogs there are two types of guns being sold regular firearms and CA OK firearms. Gun manufacturers are going to make less and less guns that are CA ok and pretty soon you will not be able to find a CA OK firearm.

    CA you either need to stand up for your rights to keep your 2nd amendment rights or vote yourself into Mexico and stop leading the way to stupidity


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    guess i'll have to start using my revolver in drive bys!

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    or maybe file/switch out the extractor?

    i'm sorry guys, it wasn't working right due to some ridges on the inside. i filed them off, and it feeds PERFECTLY now!

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    My first thought when I initially heard of this microstamping idea was "that sounds about damn useless."

    My second thought was "what a devilishly handy way to frame someone." Yes, the thought came in a Stewie Griffin voice. First series run fiendish Stewie, not reinstated series more gay by the day Stewie.


    My third thought was "maybe I should write a book using this as a device", while my fourth thought was "I don't write books" followed by "why don't you" and from there things went downhill quite quickly.

    Veering back on topic, I agree with all the stuff BEK said up there. That FBI report from a few days ago should make that obvious, even to a Left Coast Liberal. But then their stake in this is harming gun ownership, not solving crimes.

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    Nice thought but a losing idea. Just like keeping a slug and case from all new guns. So many ways to defeat it without leaving a trace.


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    This is just a "feel good measure". While I don't support it, as a Cop, if it did anything to help me it would at least make it a bit more tolerable. But it's been proven to be useless. Just another way of the anti's trying to tax the firearm industry into oblivion.
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    Son of a bitch has the balls to call himself a Republican.

    *spit*
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    Quote Originally Posted by maclean View Post
    Son of a bitch has the balls to call himself a Republican.

    *spit*
    well, he effectively married a Kennedy....

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    The best way to ID guns used in crime?

    Allow every good, honest citizen to carry a gun and when they are attacked, you simply get the serial number off the perp's gun when you take it from their dead hands after the victim defends themselves.

    Or does that make too much sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
    The best way to ID guns used in crime?

    Allow every good, honest citizen to carry a gun and when they are attacked, you simply get the serial number off the perp's gun when you take it from their dead hands after the victim defends themselves.

    Or does that make too much sense?
    the average cop? i'd bet it makes PERFECT sense.

    to the average perp....i mean, liberal? it makes NO sense

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    I hope the gun companies just stop selling all firearms and ammo in Mexifornia and then see what the public does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dadyswat View Post
    I hope the gun companies just stop selling all firearms and ammo in Mexifornia and then see what the public does.
    I bet if they stop selling them in California, other states would have no more officer shortages as they lateralled out of CA.
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    28 months before mandatory... one gun purchase a month = 28 new guns! gotta work lots of ot during that time


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    Quote Originally Posted by pc830cop View Post
    28 months before mandatory... one gun purchase a month = 28 new guns! gotta work lots of ot during that time
    Oh man...
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    Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentus telum est!

    You can be the weapon, and the gun in your hand is a tool - or the gun is a weapon and you are the tool.


    I was looking for a saint who was a devil of a lover,
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    How f-ing ridiculous. 'Ol Schwarzenegger is getting pretty liberal pretty fast after getting elected under mostly "conservative" views...
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    Tied to Uncle Teddy, what do you expect?

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    Alright, now. Will someone tell me how that is going to work. When you buy ammo, do you have to take your weapon with you to have EACH AND EVERY cartridge engraved with the required info? What if you get your ammo out of state, do you take it to the AMMO ENGRAVING DIVISION OF WHAT EVER PD, to get it done. I really don't understand this "law." Hows about someone splaining in plain english what it means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bayern View Post
    Alright, now. Will someone tell me how that is going to work. When you buy ammo, do you have to take your weapon with you to have EACH AND EVERY cartridge engraved with the required info? What if you get your ammo out of state, do you take it to the AMMO ENGRAVING DIVISION OF WHAT EVER PD, to get it done. I really don't understand this "law." Hows about someone splaining in plain english what it means.
    The concept is that the gun stamps the case when it cycles.

    It doesn't work yet.
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    its a good thing I already have a 6 year supply of ammo on hand. God help the firemen that come to put out my garage fire.


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    Can't wait for criminals to take stamped brass from public ranges to spread at crime scenes.

    Wheeee!!!!
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