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    Gunman killed himself after being shot

    Volunteer security guard shot Matthew Murray, who had killed four, several times before he committed suicide, autopsy shows.

    By Nicholas Riccardi, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
    December 12, 2007

    DENVER -- The gunman who killed four people in shooting rampages at two Colorado religious institutions committed suicide after he was shot by a church security guard, police said Tuesday.

    An autopsy showed that Matthew Murray, 24, died of a self-inflicted wound after being shot several times Sunday by volunteer security guard Jeanne Assam at New Life Church in Colorado Springs.


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    Assam, a former Minneapolis police officer, confronted Murray as he burst into the foyer after fatally shooting two teenage girls in the church parking lot. Authorities have credited Assam for saving untold lives because Murray was armed with three guns and more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition.

    Minneapolis newspapers reported Tuesday that Assam had been dismissed from the department in 1997 for lying to investigators about her use of profanity in an argument with a bus driver.

    (The news just has to sully the good that this lady performed)

    Also Tuesday, a website aimed at people who have left Pentecostal and charismatic churches reported that Murray may have posted violent statements on its online forum between the two shootings.

    Murray's first attack occurred at 12:30 a.m. Sunday, when he killed two staffers at a missionary school in Arvada, Colo., that had expelled him. The attack at New Life happened about 1:10 p.m.

    The rambling postings quote liberally from dark rock songs and were written by a user called nghtmrchld26, who complained about his time at Youth With a Mission in Arvada.

    "Thank you to all you christians who've made me this way . . . I'm just so full of hate now and I love it," the poster wrote at 4:07 a.m. "Forcing all your religious [expletive] down my throat all these [expletive] years with your dominionist christian agenda . . . well . . . the abuse ends NOW . . . give me one good reason why I should show ANY mercy and compassion for ANY of you idiots."

    In his final sequence, posted at 10:55 a.m., nghtmrchld26 quotes verbatim from a manifesto left by one of the two Columbine killers, inserting the term "Christians" for the person those shooters targeted.

    Other participants on the forum were alarmed and called the FBI when they saw the statements, said Joe Istre, the site's administrator.

    Susan Medina, a spokeswoman for the Arvada Police Department, said authorities were inspecting a computer seized from Murray's home to determine whether he was nghtmrchld26.

    Murray, who was home-schooled, lived in the affluent suburb of Englewood with his parents and brother -- a student at Oral Roberts University. His father, Dr. Ronald Murray, is a prominent neurologist.

    In the online postings, nghtmrchld26 complains about being raised in a strict, religious home and constantly being offered psychiatric help.

    In 2002, Matthew Murray enrolled in a three-month training program with Youth With a Mission's Arvada branch, but he was expelled from the program for undisclosed "health" reasons, officials there have said.

    On Tuesday, Murray's former roommate, Richard Werner, who lives in Brazil, told CNN that Murray would carry on conversations with "voices" in his head. Murray also startled his classmates by performing dark songs by Marilyn Manson and Linkin Park at a Christmas concert at the school.

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    This morning I listened to the Vietnam vet that jumped the shit before the guard killed him being interviewed on our local radio station.

    He was actually there as an active participant, and thinks the suicide line of thought is either an outright fabrication or a mistake on the part of police.

    Either way, it was an armed citizen who brought the rampage to an end - and I don't care if she forced him into a suicide by wounding him or shot him to death outright.

    She should get the credit.
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    I agree with Maclean...

    I also heard that the guy you are talking about was urging another armed guard to either shoot him or give him his gun so he could shoot him... I think she deserves the credit because unlike the other armed guard she was willing to do something... her actions were nothing less then heroic.

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    Fukketh Himmeth.

    He was an abortion 24 years, 8 1/2 months overdue imho, and I'm pro-life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illiy View Post
    I also heard that the guy you are talking about was urging another armed guard to either shoot him or give him his gun so he could shoot him...
    Yes, and once the shit bird was down the guy took his gun, cleared it, and prepared to go after another shooter.
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    It seems that most of these nuts turn the gun on themselves when met with armed resistance. Regardless of which gun the bullet came from, she ended the threat when she met him with armed resistance. The SOB was a coward that couldn't handle life so he decided to end the lives of others, When one of the other leveled the playing field he regressed to the cowards path and killed himself. Piss on him.

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    that woman was amazing in my eyes...
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    But instead
    Found blackberry riots and
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    An old skid road
    Brought ghost ferns and
    Hollows filled with
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    While waves wrapped
    Intricate lacings of weeds
    'Round mule spinners

    His cyanotic eyes
    Were hard enough to make
    The sun turn tail and
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    I think she did good and should be recognized for it.
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