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    Lakota Sioux Indians Declare Sovereign Nation Status

    WASHINGTON, DC - December 20 - Lakota Sioux Indian representatives declared sovereign nation status today in Washington D.C. following Monday's withdrawal from all previously signed treaties with the United States Government. The withdrawal, hand delivered to Daniel Turner, Deputy Director of Public Liaison at the State Department, immediately and irrevocably ends all agreements between the Lakota Sioux Nation of Indians and the United States Government outlined in the 1851 and 1868 Treaties at Fort Laramie Wyoming.
    "This is an historic day for our Lakota people," declared Russell Means, Itacan of Lakota. "United States colonial rule is at its end!" "Today is a historic day and our forefathers speak through us. Our Forefathers made the treaties in good faith with the sacred Canupa and with the knowledge of the Great Spirit," shared Garry Rowland from Wounded Knee. "They never honored the treaties, that's the reason we are here today." The four member Lakota delegation traveled to Washington D.C. culminating years of internal discussion among treaty representatives of the various Lakota communities. Delegation members included well known activist and actor Russell Means, Women of All Red Nations (WARN) founder Phyllis Young, Oglala Lakota Strong Heart Society leader Duane Martin Sr., and Garry Rowland, Leader Chief Big Foot Riders. Means, Rowland, Martin Sr. were all members of the 1973 Wounded Knee takeover. "In order to stop the continuous taking of our resources people, land, water and children- we have no choice but to claim our own destiny," said Phyllis Young, a former Indigenous representative to the United Nations and representative from Standing Rock. Property ownership in the five state area of Lakota now takes center stage. Parts of North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming and Montana have been illegally homesteaded for years despite knowledge of Lakota as predecessor sovereign [historic owner]. Lakota representatives say if the United States does not enter into immediate diplomatic negotiations, liens will be filed on real estate transactions in the five state region, clouding title over literally thousands of square miles of land and property. Young added, "The actions of Lakota are not intended to embarrass the United States but to simply save the lives of our people". Following Monday's withdrawal at the State Department, the four Lakota Itacan representatives have been meeting with foreign embassy officials in order to hasten their official return to the Family of Nations. Lakota's efforts are gaining traction as Bolivia, home to Indigenous President Evo Morales, shared they are "very, very interested in the Lakota case" while Venezuela received the Lakota delegation with "respect and solidarity." "Our meetings have been fruitful and we hope to work with these countries for better relations," explained Garry Rowland. "As a nation, we have equal status within the national community." Education, energy and justice now take top priority in emerging Lakota. "Cultural immersion education is crucial as a next step to protect our language, culture and sovereignty," said Means. "Energy independence using solar, wind, geothermal, and sugar beets enables Lakota to protect our freedom and provide electricity and heating to our people." The Lakota reservations are among the most impoverished areas in North America, a shameful legacy of broken treaties and apartheid policies. Lakota has the highest death rate in the United States and Lakota men have the lowest life expectancy of any nation on earth, excluding AIDS, at approximately 44 years. Lakota infant mortality rate is five times the United States average and teen suicide rates 150% more than national average. 97% of Lakota people live below the poverty line and unemployment hovers near 85%. "After 150 years of colonial enforcement, when you back people into a corner there is only one alternative," emphasized Duane Martin Sr. "The only alternative is to bring freedom into its existence by taking it back to the love of freedom, to our lifeway." We are the freedom loving Lakota from the Sioux Indian reservations of Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota and Montana who have traveled to Washington DC to withdraw from the constitutionally mandated treaties to become a free and independent country. We are alerting the Family of Nations we have now reassumed our freedom and independence with the backing of Natural, International, and United States law. For more information, please visit our new website at www.lakotafreedom.com.



    My thought is put up a fence and hire more border agents, passport in passport out. How long will they survive with no federal aid and casinos drying up. These people that support casinos cant afford to pay their bills would not be able to afford a passport to gamble plus it would be a headache to always cross in and out of US borders. Also Tarrifs on products in and out. I think it solves alot of problems.


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    Russell Means is a worthless........ aww.....nevermind, you get the point.
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    Man, I bet my Indians of North America professor is pissed this didn't happen a week ago so she could lecture about it for an hour!
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    Lakota has the highest death rate in the United States and Lakota men have the lowest life expectancy of any nation on earth, excluding AIDS, at approximately 44 years. Lakota infant mortality rate is five times the United States average and teen suicide rates 150% more than national average. 97% of Lakota people live below the poverty line and unemployment hovers near 85%.
    The low life expectancy is due to their lifestyle. The infant mortality rate is due to parents not parenting. The teen suicide rate coincides with the parenting. Children are left to take care of themselves from a very early age. Part of the poverty problem is because families have like a million children and can't (or won't) take care of them. Pisses me off.
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    I like the passport in passport out idea

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    This pisses me off. Living in Oklahoma, I get to see what advantages the American Indian acutally has. Wanna go to college and you've got native blood? Free. Want health care taken care of? Free. Want a new house? Damn near free. What happened to the native american 150 years ago is tragic...but it's what's happened to all different sorts of people in the history of the world. One group conquers, the other group is conquered. Kind of how it goes. Now they have access to all the freebies in the universe to help make up for getting screwed, but they're still pissed off? Really? Let's end the thousands of different social programs intended soley for the benefit of the native american and see what happens. There's no excuse at all for not receiving a college degree if you're native because it's completely paid for...NONE. My wife's best friend is 1/4 cherokee and got a MASTERS degree in Geography completely free from OSU. Not one thin dime she had to pay for it. They outta be the most educated group in the universe.
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    Bob,

    I agree with you. There are plenty of other ethnic/social groups that have been treated equally poorly (if not worse), even in more modern times. Consider the Holocaust, for example... Many of the survivors from that era are still alive today, and as a whole they are hardly asking for the things that some of the Native Americans are.

    Regretably, what happened 150 years ago can not be changed. Nevertheless, "we" were no more responsible for that, as citizens, than these folks were victims of that treatment. Times change. But, if one thing is for certain, the nature of the world has always naturally involved the strong conquering the weak. It happened for several thousand years before the Eurpoeans made their way to North America, and plenty of other groups around the world have suffered too... Hell, for that matter many of the people who settled in this country originally did so as a means of escaping persecution in their home-lands!!!

    My ultimate point here is that I am tired of being blamed for everything bad that has happened to anyone who doesn't closely resemble my genetic makeup! I am tired of having to go the "extra mile" in life just so that I can be on an equal playing field with those who have demanded free handouts as retribution for the bad treatment that their great-great-grandparent's generation received (in other words, why should it be harder for me to get a job/promotion as a white male heterosexual between the ages of 20 and 40? Is that not discrimination in and of itself?).

    I sure wish my college degree came free...

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    I realize that terrible things were done to certain groups and like most others I hate that it happened, but I refuse to appologize for it, I was not there, I was not at wounded knee, I was not the one who signed or broke the treaty. Just as any american indian my age was not there, they were not there when indians raided or killed settlers and kidnaped and tortured prisoners so therefore I will not ask or expect any indian I meet to appologize for those things. Regardless of skin color, religion, ancestory...we are Americans, if you dont like the fact that you re an american....leave, I cant change your mind and damned if I will try.
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    They better be careful, the feds play "Cowboys and Indians" for keeps.

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    Hold on here folks. This just might be what we need if Hillary becomes president. Anyone know what their gun control policy will be?????

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    American politicians are too scared to cut off the tribes from the federal teat. They should, but they won't.

    And yes, it will lead to yet another AIM like event in which tribals and LE types will be killed. Begs the question: will tribal LE gun down their non-tribal LE brethern in an incident? Reconquista ala Aztlan in the Heartland folks. Except the tribes need the federal dollars in addition to the casinos.

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    Now to play the devil's advocate..

    And I can only speak from the Canadian experience, which I believe is fairly close to yours down south.

    We screwed them in a huge way, we ripped them off of the lands they believed were theirs, they are slaughtered, starved, stuck on reserves in shitty areas, and then we stolen their children.

    We wonder why there are parenting issues, generations of kids were taken and stuck in residential school, where they were beaten and raped beginning in the mid to late 1800s. Canada's last residential school shut down in 1981.

    So there have been generations of people that have no idea how to live as a family. No idea on how to be a parent. And many of those people suffered horrible abuses in those school, from physical abuse - the common phrase was "Beating the Indian out of them". Sexual abuse was rampant (both genders being victimized), and some children were murdered.

    So, how does one cope with generations of abuse and come through it unscathed? My guess is that you simply don't ....

    I believe that all of us have control over our lives and how we live them, but for some, it isn't that easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw View Post
    This pisses me off. Living in Oklahoma, I get to see what advantages the American Indian acutally has. Wanna go to college and you've got native blood? Free. Want health care taken care of? Free. Want a new house? Damn near free. What happened to the native american 150 years ago is tragic...but it's what's happened to all different sorts of people in the history of the world. One group conquers, the other group is conquered. Kind of how it goes. Now they have access to all the freebies in the universe to help make up for getting screwed, but they're still pissed off? Really? Let's end the thousands of different social programs intended soley for the benefit of the native american and see what happens. There's no excuse at all for not receiving a college degree if you're native because it's completely paid for...NONE. My wife's best friend is 1/4 cherokee and got a MASTERS degree in Geography completely free from OSU. Not one thin dime she had to pay for it. They outta be the most educated group in the universe.
    Bob, i'll preface this by saying i'm NOT racist at all, but i can tell a joke about anybody and everybody

    i lived right off a reservation in mid-Michigan. being a "soverign nation," and very proud of it, the Indians had a casino on the rez. because of the deal that was struck, the Indians who could show enough "blood," got $1,500 a WEEK for simply having that blood and living on the Rez. 78 GRAND A YEAR for doing nothing but living within the boundaries.

    a fair amt. of them put it to good use, and got jobs at the casino in management, etc (preference was given to Indians for hiring and promotions, and was stated in the application). a lot also used their money to live in hovels and trailers, and blow their money like you wouldn't believe.

    now, i'm not one to disparage an entire people for nothing. a lot of the ones i met were good, hard working people who were proud of their heritage. but the ones that took advantage of it made me sick. something "we" did to "them" a couple hundred years ago does NOT count nowadays. history has been defined by the conquerors and the conquered, for better or worse.

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    Yeah, we screwed the natives, but after years of incentives and what I would call reparations...

    Now, I say if Lakota Sioux don't like it,


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    I grew up adjacent to various reservations over the years and have family link to some.

    I appreciate the devil advocacy point sbut they are misguided. Like the Canadians, our tribals are semi-soverign. They hold that weird position of being soverign from local and state laws but draw from the federal funds. There are tribes today, thanks to casinos and vices (smoking, etc.) that are financially wealthy. There are tribes that are poor and struggle. Unfortunately, war was declared on tribals in the US, overt and covert. A vast majority of tribes lost and were subjugated to what they have now - treaties and small tracts of land. That is how war works, whether we agree or not. They are no more special than Germanic tribes during the Roman Invasions or the Kurds or Persians during the Ottoman EMpire expansion.

    But no other group in the US has more going for them in federal dollars, scholarships, benefits and so on than legitimate tribals. Sadly, many still believe that victimization is the way to make a living (my people three generations ago were victims of the oppression so I will flail myself and live a poor life - example).

    Russell Means has been a long time socialist, that's pretty well known. Armed with casino dollars, they believe their time is now to make their move. If so, fine. But again, they should have all federal funds, access, etc. cut from them or make it clearthey will no longer accept or demand federal dollars or my tax money.

    We have a tribe near us (Tulaips) that is massively wealthy from their casino and the leasing of their land to big things like a Wal-Mart, Home Depot and an outlet mall. To their credit, they have re-invested that money into high class schools, medical centers and infrastructure on their land. That is a smart thing to do. Their leaders are connected with and involved with local and state politics (although John McCoy is a democrat liberal - popular with the latte swilling crowd in Seattle). They are a positive example of how to retain dignity and be an independant but integral player in the local scene.

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    To quote Dennis Miller:

    "What were those Indians doing on our land before we got here anyway?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    now, i'm not one to disparage an entire people for nothing. a lot of the ones i met were good, hard working people who were proud of their heritage. but the ones that took advantage of it made me sick. something "we" did to "them" a couple hundred years ago does NOT count nowadays. history has been defined by the conquerors and the conquered, for better or worse.
    The problem is that it wasn't a couple hundred years ago. It started a couple of hundred of years ago, and lasted until a couple of decades ago.

    Also, the past does matter now, because those treaties our governments signed were/are legally binding contracts and their mismanagement is coming back to bite us in that ass.

    I'm not an expert in Indian affairs, but I also think conquered may not be true. Both sides wanted peace and entered in to contracts to make it so. The problem is the "winning" side hasn't lived up to their end of the bargain, and then went and abused the snot of them years later, when they had the power to conquer them.

    So, how does one take advantage of things like free education, when their parents, their parents parents, and those before them, were seized by the state at 5 yrs old?

    We all know what happens to kids raised in abusive homes, the majority grow up to be a-holes, and some turnout to incredibly productive people (Yes, even cops ).

    But multiple that abuse by generations, whole families separated from another, their culture and language stripped from them, and we wonder why there is substance abuse? Why their is abuse and neglect?

    As for "Blood" being a right to receive income, why not? Their resources have been unlawfully stripped from them. If the band uses band money to start up business, wineries, casinos, camp grounds, etc show the band as a whole not receive their share?

    The people (every man, woman, and child) living in Alaska and Alberta receive money from government each year collect from oil revenue taxes. It's their collective land, and being a citizen of that state or province, they receive a financial benefit from their natural resources being used.

 

 

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