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02-08-08, 12:13 AM #1Corporal
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Two Officers Killed...Shooting Rampage at MO City Hall
Anyone have anymore info on this??
2 officers reportedly killed in shooting at city council meeting in kirkwood, missouri. Preliminary reports places total death toll at 5, plus the gunman, killed by responding officers.
Please keep the families of all these victims in your prayers. God bless the souls of these victims. Rest in Peace
02-08-08, 12:21 AM #2
Very sad night for that city.
Rest in peace, Officers.
KIRKWOOD, Mo. — Two police officers were among five people shot and killed Thursday night by a gunman who opened fire at a city council meeting in this St. Louis suburb, police said.
A total of seven people were shot, including the mayor and several city officials, before police shot and killed the gunman, though it is unclear which officials are among the dead.
The gunman was identified as Charles Lee "Cookie" Thornton a St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter who was attending the meeting.
MyFOXStLouis, citing a local newspaper, reports that Thornton had a history of disruptive activity at council meetings. Thornton, a local contractor and a black man, repeatedly accused the city of racism and discrimination in citing him for unlicensed work, and he even sued the city for civil rights violations but recently lost the suit, the TV station reported.
Thornton first shot a police officer outside the city council chambers before walking inside and opening fire, police said in a brief news conference.
The Post-Dispatch reporter said the 7 p.m. meeting had just started when the shooter rushed into the council chambers yelling and began opening fire with at least one weapon. He started yelling "shoot the mayor" while walking around and firing, hitting a police officer first, the reporter said.
The reporter, Janet McNichols, also said the shooter fired at the city attorney, who tried to fight off the attacker by throwing chairs. The shooter then moved behind desk where the council sits and fired more shots at council members.
About 30 people were in the council chambers at the time of the shooting, the reporter said.
Dozens of emergency vehicles were on the scene and an area of several blocks was cordoned off along a busy north-south corridor around the city hall.
Kirkwood is about 20 miles southwest of downtown St. Louis, just inside the I-270 loop. City Hall is located in a quiet area filled with condominiums, eateries and shops, and is not far from a dance studio and train station.
Mary Linehares, a teacher who lives about four blocks from City Hall, described the town as quiet and eclectic.
"It's like a small town in St. Louis," said Mary, who walked down to the scene with her husband, Jim. "You can call it Mayberry."
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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02-08-08, 12:24 AM #3Corporal
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02-08-08, 03:32 AM #4
Shooting Rampage at MO City Hall
Two police officers, three city officials, and suspect reported dead.
By CHRISTOPHER LEONARD, Associated Press Writer 1 minute ago
KIRKWOOD, Mo. - A gunman with a history of acrimony against civic leaders stormed City Hall during a council meeting Thursday night, killing two police officers and three city officials before law enforcers fatally shot him, authorities said. The mayor was critically injured in the rampage.
The victims at the meeting in suburban St. Louis were killed after the gunman rushed the council chambers and began firing as he yelled "Shoot the mayor!" according to St. Louis County Police spokeswoman Tracy Panus. Two people were wounded before Kirkwood police fatally shot him, she said.
Panus said the names of the victims would not be released until a news conference Friday morning. But the wounded included Mayor Mike Swoboda, who was in critical condition late Thursday in the intensive-care unit of St. John's Mercy Hospital in Creve Coeur, hospital spokesman Bill McShane said, declining to discuss the nature of the injuries. McShane said another victim, Suburban Journals newspaper reporter Todd Smith, was in satisfactory condition.
The gunman killed one officer outside City Hall, then walked into the chambers and shot another before continuing to fire, Panus said.
Janet McNichols, a reporter covering the meeting for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, told the newspaper that the 7 p.m. meeting with about 30 people had just started when the shooter rushed in and opened fire with at least one weapon. He started yelling about shooting the mayor while walking around and firing, hitting police Officer Tom Ballman in the head, she said.
Public Works Director Kenneth Yost was shot in the head, and council members Michael H.T. Lynch and Connie Karr also were hit, she said.
The gunman also fired at City Attorney John Hessel, who tried to fight off the attacker by throwing chairs, McNichols told the newspaper. The shooter then moved behind the desk where the council sits and fired more shots at council members, she said.
"Tonight our fellow Missourians in the city of Kirkwood were terrorized by a senseless and horrific crime at an open government meeting," Gov. Matt Blunt said in a statement. "I join Missourians tonight in praying for the victims, their families and friends, and everyone in the community of Kirkwood."
Police have not named the gunman, but McNichols identified him as Charles Lee "Cookie" Thornton, whom she knows from covering the council. Thornton had previously disrupted meetings, she told the Post-Dispatch.
Thornton was well-known at City Hall, often making outrageous comments at public meetings, according to a 2006 article in the weekly Webster-Kirkwood Times.
The newspaper quoted Swoboda as saying in June 2006 that Thornton's contentious remarks over the years created "one of the most embarrassing situations that I have experienced in my many years of public service."
Swoboda's comments came during a council meeting attended by Thornton two weeks after the man was forcibly removed from the chambers. The mayor said at the time that the council considered banning Thornton from future meetings but decided against it.
"The city council has decided that they will not lower themselves to Mr. Thornton's level," Swoboda said at the meeting. "We will act with integrity and continue to deal with him at these council proceedings. However, we will not allow Mr. Thornton, or any other person, to disrupt these proceedings."
Thornton said during the meeting that he had been issued more than 150 tickets.
He was arrested twice and later convicted for disorderly conduct for outbursts at two council meetings in 2006, convinced the city was persecuting him. When allowed to speak during one meeting, he approached the podium with a posterboard with a picture of a donkey and began making harassing remarks about Swoboda.
In a federal lawsuit stemming from those meetings, Thornton, representing himself, insisted that Kirkwood officials violated his constitutional rights to free speech by barring him from speaking at the meetings. But a judge in St. Louis tossed out the suit Jan. 28, writing that "any restrictions on Thornton's speech were reasonable, viewpoint neutral, and served important governmental interests."
Kirkwood is about 20 miles southwest of downtown St. Louis. City Hall is in a quiet area filled with condominiums, eateries and shops, not far from a dance studio and train station.
The police department's chaplain said law enforcers from several agencies were anguished over the shootings.
"They're all just so sad, shocked by this," said Father Robert Osborne of St. Peter Catholic Church. "This doesn't happen in Kirkwood."
Mary Linehares, a teacher who lives about four blocks from City Hall and who walked down to the scene with her husband, described the town as quiet and eclectic.
"It's like a small town in St. Louis," Linehares said. "You can call it Mayberry."
Despite its reputation locally for serenity, Kirkwood has grappled in recent years with crimes that have brought it unwanted attention.
Just down the street from City Hall is the Imo's pizzeria once managed by Michael Devlin, the man who kidnapped Shawn Hornbeck when the boy was just 11 in 2002 and held him for four years before authorities rescued him from the home in January last year. Also rescued was Ben Ownby, another teenager Devlin abducted just days before Devlin's arrest.
Those crimes got Devlin life terms on state charges, as well as 170 years behind bars on federal charges that he made pornography.
City Hall also is about a block from a park now named for former Kirkwood police Sgt. William McEntee, who was a 43-year-old father of three when he was slain in 2005 by a man who witnesses said blamed police for the death of his 12-year-old half-brother two hours earlier.
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02-08-08, 08:46 AM #5
Just went through loosing two here,,,hard enough when one goes down. Rest in peace brothers we have the watch, your brothers that went before have paved the streets for you and have your places next to your new Chief. To the families, friends and department, these Heros have moved on to the next watch, our thoughts and prayers are with you as you honor them.
02-08-08, 08:58 AM #6
02-08-08, 09:16 AM #7
RIP Officers...........thank you for your service. Serve with St Michael with pride and protect your brethren....
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02-08-08, 09:19 AM #8
Rest in peace.
02-08-08, 09:52 AM #9
We had several cars go down to help out in Kirkwood. If you go to CNN.com you will see one of our cars in the home page picture. Very sad day for all of St. Louis. We are all wearing black bands for our fallen brothers.
On the local news the family of this monster justified his actions saying he was driven to it and they pretty much got what was coming. I am so sick to my stomach by this.The opinions given in my posts DO NOT reflect the opinions, views, policies, and/or procedures of my employing agency. They are my personal opinions only, thereby releasing my agency of any liability, or involvement in anything posted under the username "Beans" on LEF.
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02-08-08, 03:53 PM #12
Watched the national news earlier this morning (forget which one it was now - Fox or MSNBC) where his brother ranted on about how his brother was "at war with the city", and as Beans said, kept trying to justify it.
The network anchor finally shut the interview off, with a comment something to the effect of "I just can't believe what this man is saying."
RIP to the Officers.
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02-08-08, 06:46 PM #13
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02-09-08, 01:40 AM #15
This is going to be a scary time for officers responding to Meacham Park. Props to St Louis County for handling everything professionally. In a department of 50 officers these are numbers 2 and 3 killed in the last three years.
02-09-08, 10:34 AM #16
Ridiculous. That turd's brother was on the Fox News telling the that his brother had no other choice because the town treated him like an animal and he felt as if he had his rights taken away. What was the major problem between the town and this guy? According to the news it was PARKING TICKETS!!!
Absolutely terrible situation and absolutely horrible that the brother of this P.O.S. is justifying his brothers ramage because the town "wasn't nice to him.""When you stop learning, you deny yourself the opportunity to grow." ~TDSA Tulsa~
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02-09-08, 10:38 AM #17
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