Welcome to the APBWeb.
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 24

Thread: Speak English

  1. #1
    213th's Avatar
    213th is offline Solipsist
    Join Date
    12-19-05
    Location
    64.3° N 149.1° W
    Posts
    3,672
    Rep Power
    1712095

    Thumbs up Speak English

    PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania (AP) -- A Philadelphia agency has ruled that English-only signs at a famous cheese steak shop are not discriminatory.
    The Commission on Human Relations says in its Wednesday ruling that the signs at Geno's Steaks do not violate the city's Fair Practices Ordinance.
    Joe Vento posted the signs at his shop in October 2005. They read "This is AMERICA: WHEN ORDERING 'PLEASE SPEAK ENGLISH.' " Watch a 2006 report on the issue »





    Critics allege the policy discourages customers of certain backgrounds from eating there. They say the signs discourage non-English speakers from going to the shop.
    Vento says he has never refused service to anyone because they couldn't speak English
    He who has the money, signs the cheques.
    He who signs the cheques, makes the rules.
    He who makes the rules, has the power.
    He who has the power, has the money.

  2. #2
    Ender's Avatar
    Ender is offline Three Sheets...
    Supporting Member Lvl 3
    Join Date
    10-21-07
    Posts
    1,956
    Rep Power
    525400
    ENGLISH MOTHER*******!!! DO YOU SPEAK IT??!??!?
    --

    Ender

    "And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on the dark side of the moon..."

  3. #3
    Xiphos's Avatar
    Xiphos is offline I Void Warranties
    Verified LEO
    Super Moderator
    Join Date
    03-09-08
    Location
    Thermopylae
    Posts
    8,378
    Rep Power
    7772239
    I don't see what's wrong in indicating to people what language to order in. Do your employees have to be fluent in the hundreds of local immigrant languages in case one of them wants to order in their native tongue? I'm glad this ruling came down on the side of common sense for once. I fully expected them to tell him to take it down.
    Pleasing nobody, one person at a time.

    That which does not kill me, better start fucking running.

    If I lived every day like it was my last, the body count would be staggering.

    I intend to go in harm's way. -John Paul Jones

    Hunt the wolf, and bring light to the dark places that others fear to go. LT COL Dave Grossman

  4. #4
    gozling's Avatar
    gozling is offline the gene pool could use a little chlorine
    Join Date
    06-28-06
    Location
    O'ahu Hawaii
    Posts
    4,278
    Rep Power
    610543
    niiiice
    http://www.allpoetry.com/Grunts%20Girl

    We dallied under
    Vine maples and sapling alders
    Searched for lady slippers
    But instead
    Found blackberry riots and
    Desiccated branches

    An old skid road
    Brought ghost ferns and
    Hollows filled with
    Skunk cabbage
    While waves wrapped
    Intricate lacings of weeds
    'Round mule spinners

    His cyanotic eyes
    Were hard enough to make
    The sun turn tail and
    Tender enough to attract me
    To his world of illusion

  5. #5
    The Lostralian's Avatar
    The Lostralian is offline Fighting the battle
    Join Date
    05-25-07
    Location
    Norcal
    Posts
    299
    Rep Power
    34760
    I wish more places have the balls to do that.
    Future Detective of The S.P.D
    Pride Integrity Gratitude

  6. #6
    kjlaw's Avatar
    kjlaw is offline Swamp Mafia Proud!!!
    Verified LEO
    Join Date
    05-11-06
    Location
    Laplace, Louisiana
    Posts
    3,043
    Rep Power
    429573
    Well Duh if you are in America then Speak American.

    Score one for common sense.
    Lead from the front and always remember those who came first.



    Capt. Ocativo "OX" Gonzalez
    EOW 6/16/06


    Always remember that a casket is hotter than your vest.

    Quote Originally Posted by conalabu View Post
    Soon the whole world will be in the hands of the Swamp Mafia.

  7. #7
    CTR man's Avatar
    CTR man is offline Officer First Class
    Supporting Member Lvl 3
    Join Date
    05-20-06
    Location
    Ceres, CA
    Posts
    4,965
    Rep Power
    1169036
    On the other side of the coin, should we be expected to order our food at any ethnic (Mexican, Italian, etc.) restaurant that we choose to patronize, in their language? Not as long as said restaurant is built on American soil, in my opinion. If in another country that would be different, but not here.


    Choose The Right. When you're doing whats right, then you have nothing to worry about.

    Not a LEO

    In memory of Sgt. Howard K. Stevenson 1965 - 2005. Ceres Police Dept.
    In memory of Robert N. Panos 1955 - 2008 Ceres Police Dept.









  8. #8
    cajunguy's Avatar
    cajunguy is offline I LOVE my ParaOrd .45ACP!
    Verified LEO
    Join Date
    12-03-05
    Location
    South La.
    Posts
    1,937
    Rep Power
    2608090
    This is America. Speak ENGLISH, dammit!!


    .
    The Swamp Mafia -
    "Heaven doesn't want us,
    and Hell's afraid we'll take over!!"
    .

  9. #9
    jmur5074's Avatar
    jmur5074 is offline Moderator
    Premium Lifetime Member
    Verified LEO
    Site Moderator
    Join Date
    12-04-05
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    9,051
    Rep Power
    6232622
    Quote Originally Posted by kjlaw View Post
    Well Duh if you are in America then Speak American.
    Or English...whatever.
    No one has greater love than this, to lay down ones life for ones friends - John 15:13

    "The Wicked Flee When No Man Pursueth: But The Righteous Are Bold As A Lion".

    We lucky few, we band of brothers. For he who today sheds his blood with me shall be my brother.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~
    The opinions, beliefs, and ideas expressed in this post are mine, and mine alone. They are NOT the opinions, beliefs, ideas, or policies of my Agency, Police Chief, City Council, or any member of my department.

  10. #10
    Ender's Avatar
    Ender is offline Three Sheets...
    Supporting Member Lvl 3
    Join Date
    10-21-07
    Posts
    1,956
    Rep Power
    525400
    Quote Originally Posted by CTR man View Post
    On the other side of the coin, should we be expected to order our food at any ethnic (Mexican, Italian, etc.) restaurant that we choose to patronize, in their language? Not as long as said restaurant is built on American soil, in my opinion. If in another country that would be different, but not here.
    Aaaah...that is where Capitalism shines here. They have every right to expect that we order in 'their' language...but in the long run, they'd lose business because of it. Simple give and take.

    Most every truly ethnic place I've been to will certainly abide by you ordering in English, no problem. But you typically have the opportunity to order in the native tongue if you please.

    If they require you to order in whatever language, and you can't...(and the average American can't), they ain't gonna last long unless they are in a very ethnic area.
    --

    Ender

    "And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on the dark side of the moon..."

  11. #11
    BigDawg's Avatar
    BigDawg is offline K-9 Officer
    Verified LEO
    Site Moderator
    Join Date
    06-15-06
    Location
    So. Florida
    Posts
    5,312
    Rep Power
    1659729
    Last I knew any private place could refuse service to anyone they wanted. If he wants to limit his clientel to English speaking customers thats his choice. Dont like it go else where, pretty simple to me.
    "An Unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper


    Some people are meant to be the police......Some people are meant to call the police!!!

    "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it."
    -Ronald Reagan


    " I believe that forgiving them (Terrorist) is God's function. OUR job is to arrange the meeting."
    General Norman Schwartzkopf

    Not all Muslims are Terrorists, but all Terrorists are Muslim.
    (author unknown)


    The statements posted by BigDawg DO NOT reflect the opinions, views, policies, or procedures of the author's employing agency. These statements are the personal opinions of BigDawg only, thereby releasing my agency of any liability, or involvement in anything posted under the user name of BigDawg. The opinions expressed by BigDawg are protected by the 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. BigDawg’s messages are intended to invoke thought and discussion among the "Officer Resources" forum community and may not necessarily reflect the opinion of the author. BigDawg’s posts and any attachments are intended for an adult audience (18+) and may contain strong language, sexual content, nudity, violence, and may be graphic in nature. Some material may be considered offensive; reader discretion is advised. Please note that many of BigDawg’s posts are intended for entertainment value only. BigDawg’s posts are not intended to be used where prohibited by law. Furthermore, BigDawg's posts, and any attachments, may contain information covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, and is confidential and proprietary in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you are legally prohibited from retaining, using, copying, distributing, or otherwise disclosing this information in any manner.

  12. #12
    Bob Loblaw's Avatar
    Bob Loblaw is offline Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho
    Verified LEO
    Join Date
    05-16-06
    Location
    America, 2505 A.D.
    Posts
    2,840
    Rep Power
    3732206
    The absolute best mexican food places I have ever eaten at here in the USA I had to get my espanol on to place an order. That being said, if the owner of the biz says "English Only," then that's his right, just as i think an owner can say "Spanish Only." Or, I guess more appropriately, "Solo Espanol." I guess if he wanted people to order in Spanish, the sign would have to be written in Spanish. Just sayin'....
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna
    he (Obama) doesn't have a birth certificate because he wasn't born, he was created in a Muslim witch's cauldron!
    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post
    I must admit, there have been few pieces of meat I've ever jammed into my mouth that have been as satisfying as Bob's.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko45 "The Mall Ninja"
    Vietnam still shudders when it hears the name of a an assasin so skillful and deadly, he is remembered decades later
    Reca is the best thing since sliced bread!

  13. #13
    armsmaster270's Avatar
    armsmaster270 is offline Ret. Sac. P.D. - 270th M.P. Co., Now with D.H.S.
    Verified LEO
    Join Date
    08-11-07
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Posts
    2,441
    Rep Power
    369108
    I'm glad someone has the balls to do that maybe it will start a trend.. I believe at one time you had to know american history and english to become a citizen what happened. and if you are not a citizen GTFO.


    Pretty women make us BUY beer. Ugly women make us DRINK beer. --Al Bundy

    http://www.armsmaster.net-a.googlepages.com

  14. #14
    Jenna's Avatar
    Jenna is offline sheep
    Premium Lifetime Member
    Join Date
    06-11-06
    Posts
    24,374
    Rep Power
    4817857
    Quote Originally Posted by kjlaw View Post
    Well Duh if you are in America then Speak American.
    Trojan 42 will not be spending his hard-earned pounds at your establishment, then!

  15. #15
    The Lostralian's Avatar
    The Lostralian is offline Fighting the battle
    Join Date
    05-25-07
    Location
    Norcal
    Posts
    299
    Rep Power
    34760
    Que? Mi no comprende
    Future Detective of The S.P.D
    Pride Integrity Gratitude

  16. #16
    ryan36002's Avatar
    ryan36002 is offline Senior Officer
    Verified LEO
    Join Date
    01-15-08
    Location
    The left Coast
    Posts
    128
    Rep Power
    9923
    Do other countries bow to the language of their immigrants, many of whom are illegal? I shouldn't have to speak spanish to order a F****** Big Mac in Oregon. Our ancestors have faught wars and died so we can all speak English. Don't disrespect them by compromising their accomplishments.

    Just my personal Pacific NW redneck opinion.
    "You will learn more with your ears than you will your mouth!"

  17. #17
    Xiphos's Avatar
    Xiphos is offline I Void Warranties
    Verified LEO
    Super Moderator
    Join Date
    03-09-08
    Location
    Thermopylae
    Posts
    8,378
    Rep Power
    7772239
    Quote Originally Posted by ryan36002 View Post
    Do other countries bow to the language of their immigrants, many of whom are illegal? I shouldn't have to speak spanish to order a F****** Big Mac in Oregon. Our ancestors have faught wars and died so we can all speak English. Don't disrespect them by compromising their accomplishments.

    Just my personal Pacific NW redneck opinion.
    You don't know how much that rings true! I used to live in a heavily Hispanic population. You could not go through a drive through anywhere without the place being worked by Spanish speakers. If you didn't order by number off the menu your order got butchered because the drive through worker taking orders didn't speak any English!

    I've since moved to an area that happens to have only a small population of Spanish speakers. All the drive throughs are run by Americans and I remember the astonishment when I first ordered with someone who understood me! Of course my order is still jacked up because they fuck you in the drive through!
    Pleasing nobody, one person at a time.

    That which does not kill me, better start fucking running.

    If I lived every day like it was my last, the body count would be staggering.

    I intend to go in harm's way. -John Paul Jones

    Hunt the wolf, and bring light to the dark places that others fear to go. LT COL Dave Grossman

  18. #18
    Bob Loblaw's Avatar
    Bob Loblaw is offline Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho
    Verified LEO
    Join Date
    05-16-06
    Location
    America, 2505 A.D.
    Posts
    2,840
    Rep Power
    3732206
    Quote Originally Posted by ryan36002 View Post
    Our ancestors have faught wars and died so we can all speak English.
    I'm fairly certain that had nothing to do with why our ancestors (yes, mine included..a lot of them, in fact) fought and died in wars for America.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna
    he (Obama) doesn't have a birth certificate because he wasn't born, he was created in a Muslim witch's cauldron!
    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post
    I must admit, there have been few pieces of meat I've ever jammed into my mouth that have been as satisfying as Bob's.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko45 "The Mall Ninja"
    Vietnam still shudders when it hears the name of a an assasin so skillful and deadly, he is remembered decades later
    Reca is the best thing since sliced bread!

  19. #19
    Jenna's Avatar
    Jenna is offline sheep
    Premium Lifetime Member
    Join Date
    06-11-06
    Posts
    24,374
    Rep Power
    4817857
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw View Post
    I'm fairly certain that had nothing to do with why our ancestors (yes, mine included..a lot of them, in fact) fought and died in wars for America.
    Didn't the very first US citizens fight for the right to speak American instead of English?

  20. #20
    Xiphos's Avatar
    Xiphos is offline I Void Warranties
    Verified LEO
    Super Moderator
    Join Date
    03-09-08
    Location
    Thermopylae
    Posts
    8,378
    Rep Power
    7772239
    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    Didn't the very first US citizens fight for the right to speak American instead of English?
    I thought that had more to do with taxation without representation.

    I think what Ryan means is that we would likely be speaking German right now had we not won WWII. They were fighting for a lot more than "speaking English" but we probably wouldn't be speaking English had it not been for their determination.
    Pleasing nobody, one person at a time.

    That which does not kill me, better start fucking running.

    If I lived every day like it was my last, the body count would be staggering.

    I intend to go in harm's way. -John Paul Jones

    Hunt the wolf, and bring light to the dark places that others fear to go. LT COL Dave Grossman

 

 
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •