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    Sudden death after arrest may be new syndrome

    Young men who die suddenly after being arrested by the police may be victims of a new syndrome similar to one that kills some wild animals when they are captured, Spanish researchers said on Tuesday.

    Manuel Martinez Selles of Madrid's Hospital Gregorio Maranon reached the conclusion after investigating 60 cases of sudden unexplained deaths in Spain following police detention.

    In one third of the cases, death occurred at the point of arrest, while in the remainder death was within 24 hours, Selles told the annual meeting of the European Society of Cardiology.

    All but one of the casualties were male and their average age was just 33 years, with no previous history of cardiovascular disease.

    "Something unusual is going on," Sells said.

    Just why they died remains a mystery but he believes young men, in particular, may experience surges in blood levels of chemicals known as catecholamines when under severe stress.

    Adrenaline is one of the most abundant catecholamines.

    "We know that when a wild animal is captured, sometimes the animal dies suddenly," he said.

    "Probably when these young males are captured it is very stressful and their level of catecholamines goes very high and that can finish their life by ventricular fibrillation (cardiac arrest)."

    Selles compiled his study -- the first of its kind in any country -- by scouring Spanish newspapers for cases of unexplained death after police detention over the past 10 years.

    Only sudden deaths with no clear causes were included and autopsy reports were checked to exclude the possibility of mistreatment or past serious medical conditions.

    Twelve of the victims were drug users but Selles said this was not thought to have contributed to their deaths.

    Jonathan Halperin of the Mount Sinai Medical Center in New York, who was not involved in the research, said the concept of a heart stress syndrome triggered by a flood of adrenaline or other chemicals was "a reasonable hypothesis."

    "We all know stress is bad for you and this may be stress in the extreme," he said.

    By Ben Hirschler 1 hour, 37 minutes ago

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    (Editing by Giles Elgood)

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080902/...art_death_dc_1

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    Nice to know they stumbled on what has already been published here.

    It's called ED, or excited delirium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maclean View Post
    Nice to know they stumbled on what has already been published here.

    It's called ED, or excited delirium.
    Yep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maclean View Post
    Nice to know they stumbled on what has already been published here.

    It's called ED, or excited delirium.
    Funny I thought of the same thing.

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    I guess now they want us to let them all go so they don't elivate their levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maclean View Post
    Nice to know they stumbled on what has already been published here.

    It's called ED, or excited delirium.
    That may be true but most cases we know about with ED is from the use of an external chemical/Drug
    Somebody Please, what the hell is that smell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoestring View Post
    That may be true but most cases we know about with ED is from the use of an external chemical/Drug
    Most cases of ED come from the extensive PRIOR use of an external chemical.

    That isn't to say that the adrenal cycle could not happen absent such use, particularly among people who have been otherwise innoculated to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TXCharlie View Post
    I have a solution: Tranquilizer darts
    Actually, the only thing that has worked so far is immediate cooling.
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    Darts would be more fun.

    (that's good to know, though... Do they recommend pouring water on them?)

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