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    Iraq war veteran shot by California Deputy. Deputy arrested for manslaughter.

    LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- The 21-year-old Iraq war veteran seen in a video being shot by a sheriff's deputy says in a recorded statement that he has difficulty walking.
    Senior Airman Elio Carrion released a videotaped statement through his attorney Thursday, a day after San Bernardino County sheriff's Deputy Ivory J. Webb pleaded not guilty to attempted voluntary manslaughter and was released on $100,000 bail.
    "My physical therapy continues to progress and I still have difficulties walking," Carrion says, looking into the video camera.
    "I'm sorry I haven't been able to speak publicly, but right now I'm focused on my physical therapy and healing."
    The tape shows him sitting on a couch next to his wife and moving around with the aid of a walker.
    The January 29 shooting was videotaped by a bystander and broadcast on U.S. national television. (Watch the shots being fired -- 1:00)
    It shows Webb shooting Carrion, who was not armed, in the chest, shoulder and thigh after a brief high-speed chase involving a car in which the airman was a passenger.
    Webb, who faces up to 18 1/2 years in prison if convicted, has not spoken publicly about the shooting.
    Carrion, who is assigned to a security unit at Barksdale Air Force Base in Shreveport, Louisiana, has not been charged with a crime.

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    I saw this coming right after it happened. Even though I try not to judge someone until I've been in their shoes; what was this deputy thinking?
    Could it be he got caught up in the pursuit and wasn't able to turn it down after apprehension? I hope I'm never put in that situation.
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    I'd really like to know what was in his head when he pulled the trigger. That's the key to it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongTail
    I'd really like to know what was in his head when he pulled the trigger. That's the key to it all.
    My guess is that he was scared to death. The analysis of the tape showed that he did in fact tell the guy to get up and then shot him when he did. His voice sounded pretty panicked to me.
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    So... does it work in California the same as in England? That if you have an honestly held belief (however unreasonable) that you are in danger of death or serious bodily harm you can use lethal force?

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    I know here the law regarding lethal force is based of the officer's persecption. I don't see how that can be different anywhere else.

    Way too hard to judge another's actions over a small video clip. Plus none of us here have any idea of what the officer was thinking.

    I will say it does not look good for the deputy. Did a passenger run? I seem to remember that. Why did the passenger run?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThisGlock40
    Way too hard to judge another's actions over a small video clip. Plus none of us here have any idea of what the officer was thinking.
    That's where I'm at with it; I hate to criticize or defend his actions.
    Quote Originally Posted by LongTail
    So... does it work in California the same as in England? That if you have an honestly held belief (however unreasonable) that you are in danger of death or serious bodily harm you can use lethal force?
    I think it is going to come down to reasonability; California is a very liberal state with intense gun control laws. What would an officer with similar training and experiences do under the same conditions. Of course this is impossible to determine; we can't know what he was thinking or feeling. With so many over zealous prosecutors, this guy is going to have a real hard time.
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