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    Former Drug Cop turned anti-cop, anti-drug advocate Barry Cooper sets up cops

    Like Mark Draughn, I've been somewhat skeptical of Barry Cooper, the former drug cop turned pitchman for how-to-beat-the-cops videos. He comes off as more of a huckster than a principled whistle-blower, which I think does the good ideas he stands for (police reform) more harm than good.
    But damn. I have to hand it to him. This might be one of the ballsiest moves I've ever seen.
    KopBusters rented a house in Odessa, Texas and began growing two small Christmas trees under a grow light similar to those used for growing marijuana. When faced with a suspected marijuana grow, the police usually use illegal FLIR cameras and/or lie on the search warrant affidavit claiming they have probable cause to raid the house. Instead of conducting a proper investigation which usually leads to no probable cause, the Kops lie on the affidavit claiming a confidential informant saw the plants and/or the police could smell marijuana coming from the suspected house.
    The trap was set and less than 24 hours later, the Odessa narcotics unit raided the house only to find KopBuster’s attorney waiting under a system of complex gadgetry and spy cameras that streamed online to the KopBuster’s secret mobile office nearby.
    To clarify just a bit, according to Cooper, there was nothing illegal going on the bait house, just two evergreen trees and some grow lamps. There was no probable cause. So a couple of questions come up. First, how did the cops get turned on to the house in the first place? Cooper suspects they were using thermal imaging equipment to detect the grow lamps, a practice the Supreme Court has said is illegal. The second question is, what probable cause did the police put on the affidavit to get a judge to sign off on a search warrant? If there was nothing illegal going on in the house, it's difficult to conceive of a scenario where either the police or one of their informants didn't lie to get a warrant.
    Cooper chose the Odessa police department for baiting because he believes police there instructed an informant to plant marijuana on a woman named Yolanda Madden. She's currently serving an eight-year sentence for possession with intent to distribute. According to Cooper, the informant actually admitted in federal court that he planted the marijuana. Madden was convicted anyway.
    The story's worth watching, not only to see if the cops themselves are held accountable for this, but whether the local district attorney tries to come up with a crime with which to charge Cooper and his assistants. I can't imagine such a charge would get very far, but I wouldn't be surprised to see someone try.


    Here's some local media coverage:
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    So I suppose he posts on Copwatch, too?


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    You might remember him from the 'Never Get Busted' tape.

    Check out his forums. They're full of great tips to teach drug dealers how to grow marijuana...etc

    http://www.nevergetbusted.com/ngbbb/index.php

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    What a douche bag. If I ever get the pleasure of stopping him I won't even search the car. I will, however, write him for every citation that I can find. Tread depth violations anyone?

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    I suppose license plate light violations fit in there too, especially if the state has reflective plates?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Five-0 View Post
    What a douche bag.
    Now wait a sec. The Police illegaly raid a house he sets up, and he's a douchebag?

    How, exactly?

    If the police were doing things properly and playing by the rules, then this guy wouldn't be getting what he wants: publicity.

    I agree with Brad when says this guy seems more like a snake-oil salesman than some rebel with a cause. But he didn't make those cops kick in his door.

    IMO there is no bigger douchebag than a cop that breaks the law to the point of violating someone's civil rights.

    Now, it's entirely possible Cooper set them up somehow. I don't trust his methods any more than I do any other anti-cop group's. But if what Cooper did is on the "up and up" then those cops were wrong. If Cooper did anything improper, I hope they sue his ass off for slander.

    Hopefully, in time, we'll know what really happened.
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    All the more reason to be on the level with this job. I try to work like I've got a constant ride along on my shoulder or like everything I do is videotaped and would be watched by my Chief, the mayor, my mom and Jesus. When I retire, I want to say that I never hung a wrong collar on ANYONE and I played by the rules and made my community safer. Cops who break the rules are no different than the turds that are breaking the rules, imo.

    I still think that Barry Cooper IS a douchebag, though.
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    I think we can say without a doubt that he's a douchebag for his other efforts without making this event the defining moment or his fault.

    He turned his back on his brothers and teaches people how to beat us. That is douchebag behavior.

    That said, the Odessa narcotics unit has some serious explaining to do - and that has nothing to do with the douchebag and everything to do with possible dishonesty or cheating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw View Post
    All the more reason to be on the level with this job. I try to work like I've got a constant ride along on my shoulder or like everything I do is videotaped and would be watched by my Chief, the mayor, my mom and Jesus. When I retire, I want to say that I never hung a wrong collar on ANYONE and I played by the rules and made my community safer. Cops who break the rules are no different than the turds that are breaking the rules, imo.

    I still think that Barry Cooper IS a douchebag, though.
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    Agreed,there are way to many legit arrests out there to have to fake it.However,I also feel that in many cases,especially with larger depts.,the specialized groups are sometimes pushed to show results(read:justify the budget),and thats when crap like this tends to happen.

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    I don't like what he does teaching dealers how to beat us. He's helping people who sell drugs to children and get women so addicted they use their bodies to fund their habit. He's as much of a piece of shit as the guy giving an 8th grader a hit of crack.

    That being said I have ZERO sympathy for guys who are lying and making up crap to get search warrants. They all need to lose their jobs if they knew the search warrant was crap. Although if it's anything like around here each guy does his own investigations and everyone helps with warrants. All but one guy on the team may have thought this was legit. Anyway, can the liars who fraudulently obtained the SW.
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    I've watched Barry Cooper's "Never Get Busted" DVD (I'm surprised more cops haven't- counter-intelligence is intelligence, after all). And honestly, he doesn't tell the criminal element anything most of them don't already know. I've "busted" countless drug users that have tried his tactics.

    He even tells his audience to consent to a search if a cops asks to do one. IMO the YouTube - BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters video is more informative, and it's free.

    So if Mr. Cooper wants to make money off dumbass potheads who haven't already figured this stuff out, I don't have a problem with it. I wouldn't put Barry Cooper in the category of "douchebag" so much as "sleazy". Like a used car salesman or ambulance-chaser.

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    First of all....I just don't think the police picked up on this information in just one day so this guy had to have gotten the info to the police somehow and we don't know the whole story there.

    Second.....I have a couple of his "how to beat the K-9" videos and they aint worth crap. I tried that stuff to see if could beat my dog and it doesn't work. Brando nails it everytime.

    IMO......he is still a douchebag but so are the cops if they did wrong!!!
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    This video is kind of hilarious! Like when the stoned guy says to his friend who successfully got the cop to not search his car, "You're the man, it was like some kind of Jedi mind trick!"

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    K9Brando I agree. Someone called in a tip on that house. I dont see anyother way that they knew about a grow house in one day....it just doesnt happen. If he wants to say they used illegal info or something he should have posted a copy of the search warrant, but he doesnt wonder why.

    On the other hand if the cops did use illegal tactics and lied, then I have ZERO tolerance for that and they should be reprimanded, and at the least lose their badges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw View Post
    All the more reason to be on the level with this job. I try to work like I've got a constant ride along on my shoulder or like everything I do is videotaped and would be watched by my Chief, the mayor, my mom and Jesus. When I retire, I want to say that I never hung a wrong collar on ANYONE and I played by the rules and made my community safer. Cops who break the rules are no different than the turds that are breaking the rules, imo.
    Stop it! I can't rep you again yet.

    You are right on the money. I understand that some of police work can be about working creatively within the rules. But flat out lying just to get a warrant? I just can't support that, even if it helps get a really bad person off the street. If you feel the need to break the law to make an arrest, think a while and find a better way to outsmart the bad guy without being a criminal yourself. Or better yet, if you feel you have to do that to do your job, get another job.

    When the day is done, I have to live with myself. I don't get validation from my co-workers. I don't get it from my supervisors. I don't get it from an unappreciative public. I get it from knowing that I am doing a good job, and that above all else, I'm the one that is doing it right.
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    That guy makes me sick. How can someone BE a cop then turn around and go AGAINST them? Anybody know what happened in his career to make him switch like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10-42Adam View Post
    That guy makes me sick. How can someone BE a cop then turn around and go AGAINST them? Anybody know what happened in his career to make him switch like that?

    Probably caught with a live boy or dead girl in the back of one of his former agency's vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10-42Adam View Post
    That guy makes me sick. How can someone BE a cop then turn around and go AGAINST them? Anybody know what happened in his career to make him switch like that?
    What made him switch careers? That's easy. The same thing that makes any cop switch careers:


    As for what made him against prohibition? Probably the same thing that made me against it: Watching the courts pack small-time drug users into prison with mandatory sentences, while pushing out child molestors to make room for them.

    Watching cops and civilians get hurt over a plant. The broken policy. Not to mention it shouldn't be the government's job to tell people what to do with their bodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
    What made him switch careers? That's easy. The same thing that makes any cop switch careers:


    As for what made him against prohibition? Probably the same thing that made me against it: Watching the courts pack small-time drug users into prison with mandatory sentences, while pushing out child molestors to make room for them.

    Watching cops and civilians get hurt over a plant. The broken policy. Not to mention it shouldn't be the government's job to tell people what to do with their bodies.

    Pick your cliche.
    Good idea. Then we can pack prisons with burglars, robbers, and thieves of every shade as addicts still have to pay for their habit. I'm sure CVS and Walgreens will love remodeling all their stores for all the bullet proof glass to protect their employees from junkies. Sounds like where I want to shop.

    The current mess isn't working but I really don't think that legalization is an answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
    Good idea. Then we can pack prisons with burglars, robbers, and thieves of every shade as addicts still have to pay for their habit. I'm sure CVS and Walgreens will love remodeling all their stores for all the bullet proof glass to protect their employees from junkies. Sounds like where I want to shop.

    The current mess isn't working but I really don't think that legalization is an answer.
    There's already a thread on this debate in Rhino's Rampage. If you wish to get owned again, let's take it there.
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