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    This one really bothers me.

    Prosecutor: Slain toddler said 'I love you' at end | KOMO News - Seattle, Washington | National & World News

    Prosecutor: Slain toddler said 'I love you' at end


    By Associated Press

    GALVESTON, Texas (AP) - Jurors wept Tuesday watching a woman describe how teaching her 2-year-old daughter proper manners turned into a daylong torture session in which the toddler was beaten with belts, dunked in cold water and flung across a room so violently that she died.

    Kimberly Trenor, 20, detailed the abuse in a videotaped statement played for jurors during the first day of her capital murder trial.

    Trenor, 20, told investigators in the statement that she hit her daughter with a thick leather belt to teach her to say "please" and "yes, sir."

    The little victim was dubbed "Baby Grace" by investigators who worked to identify her decomposed remains after the body was found in a plastic container in October 2007 on a tiny island in Galveston Bay.

    Trenor's 25-year-old husband, Royce Zeigler II, is to be tried separately on murder charges. His attorney argues that Trenor is responsible for the child's death.

    But Trenor insisted it was her husband who became so enraged when the toddler didn't behave better that he hurled her several times across a room, ultimately fracturing her skull and killing her.

    "I said we have to get her to a hospital. (Zeigler) said, 'No we can't. We'll go to jail,"' Trenor said in the videotape, crying. "There came a point where she stopped breathing. He started doing CPR on the floor. He took her ... and handed her over to me. I could just feel her going cold."

    At the defense table, Trenor's eyes teared up as she watched the videotape on a large screen. Several jurors wiped away tears.

    Riley Ann Sawyers tried to stop her mother and stepfather from beating her to death by reaching out to her mother and saying, "I love you," assistant district attorney Kayla Allen told jurors earlier in the day during her opening statement.

    The toddler's pleas didn't stop her mother from brutalizing her, the prosecutor said.

    Allen said that on July 25, 2007, Trenor and Zeigler disciplined Riley by whipping her with a belt, pushing her head against a pillow and holding her head under water. She said Zeigler tossed Riley across the room, fracturing her skull. An autopsy concluded the fractures caused her death.

    Allen said the adults did nothing to help even as Riley lay dying.

    Instead, the couple bought a plastic container, stuffed Riley's body inside and stored it in a shed for a month or two before setting it out to sea, the prosecutor said.

    Defense attorney Tommy Stickler Jr. told the jury that Trenor never intended to kill her daughter and that things just "spun out of control."

    Stickler portrayed Trenor as a scared 19-year-old girl who had moved to Texas from Ohio to marry a man she met while playing an online game. She said Riley's father, her former boyfriend, had assaulted her and Zeigler was her "knight in shining armor."

    "I don't want to use the word accident, but this wasn't something that was intentional," Stickler said.

    Trenor could receive an automatic sentence of life in prison without parole if convicted of capital murder. The jury could also convict her of a lesser charge.

    Prosecutors declined to seek the death penalty because they didn't think they could prove that either one would be a future danger, as required.
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    I dont understand how people can do that to a child. Everytime I read a story like this it just reaffirms my decision to try and get into LE.

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    I could hardly get through the article. That poor baby.




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    Prosecutors declined to seek the death penalty because they didn't think they could prove that either one would be a future danger, as required.
    Thus sums up a major problem with our system of (in)justice.

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    This really bothers me.

    Quote Originally Posted by maclean View Post
    Prosecutor: Slain toddler said 'I love you' at end | KOMO News - Seattle, Washington | National & World News

    Prosecutor: Slain toddler said 'I love you' at end


    By Associated Press

    GALVESTON, Texas (AP) - Jurors wept Tuesday watching a woman describe how teaching her 2-year-old daughter proper manners turned into a daylong torture session in which the toddler was beaten with belts, dunked in cold water and flung across a room so violently that she died.

    Kimberly Trenor, 20, detailed the abuse in a videotaped statement played for jurors during the first day of her capital murder trial.

    Trenor, 20, told investigators in the statement that she hit her daughter with a thick leather belt to teach her to say "please" and "yes, sir."

    The little victim was dubbed "Baby Grace" by investigators who worked to identify her decomposed remains after the body was found in a plastic container in October 2007 on a tiny island in Galveston Bay.

    Trenor's 25-year-old husband, Royce Zeigler II, is to be tried separately on murder charges. His attorney argues that Trenor is responsible for the child's death.

    But Trenor insisted it was her husband who became so enraged when the toddler didn't behave better that he hurled her several times across a room, ultimately fracturing her skull and killing her.

    "I said we have to get her to a hospital. (Zeigler) said, 'No we can't. We'll go to jail,"' Trenor said in the videotape, crying. "There came a point where she stopped breathing. He started doing CPR on the floor. He took her ... and handed her over to me. I could just feel her going cold."

    At the defense table, Trenor's eyes teared up as she watched the videotape on a large screen. Several jurors wiped away tears.

    Riley Ann Sawyers tried to stop her mother and stepfather from beating her to death by reaching out to her mother and saying, "I love you," assistant district attorney Kayla Allen told jurors earlier in the day during her opening statement.

    The toddler's pleas didn't stop her mother from brutalizing her, the prosecutor said.

    Allen said that on July 25, 2007, Trenor and Zeigler disciplined Riley by whipping her with a belt, pushing her head against a pillow and holding her head under water. She said Zeigler tossed Riley across the room, fracturing her skull. An autopsy concluded the fractures caused her death.

    Allen said the adults did nothing to help even as Riley lay dying.

    Instead, the couple bought a plastic container, stuffed Riley's body inside and stored it in a shed for a month or two before setting it out to sea, the prosecutor said.

    Defense attorney Tommy Stickler Jr. told the jury that Trenor never intended to kill her daughter and that things just "spun out of control."

    Stickler portrayed Trenor as a scared 19-year-old girl who had moved to Texas from Ohio to marry a man she met while playing an online game. She said Riley's father, her former boyfriend, had assaulted her and Zeigler was her "knight in shining armor."

    "I don't want to use the word accident, but this wasn't something that was intentional," Stickler said.

    Trenor could receive an automatic sentence of life in prison without parole if convicted of capital murder. The jury could also convict her of a lesser charge.

    Prosecutors declined to seek the death penalty because they didn't think they could prove that either one would be a future danger, as required.
    Me too. Cases like that are why I wear a badge.
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    I can't imagine anyone doing that to a child, much less their own. I'm going to go hug my little one right now (even if he IS sleeping).
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    OMG how horrible....that poor child.

    I have absolutely NO sympathy for that woman...crying on the stand is a freakin travesty...it would have been hard not to come across a table or whatever to give her a little of her own discipline. Waste of oxygen.
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    What a horrible crime. It's strange that any psychopath is allowed to have complete power over biological children while sane, loving parents have to jump through all kinds of hoops to prove they're qualified to foster or adopt children.

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    It's more personal to those of us with kids and expecially those of us with kids near or at that age.

    Don't forget, the general public and administrators expect you to "suck it up" and keep doing your job, even after dealing with things like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    What a horrible crime. It's strange that any psychopath is allowed to have complete power over biological children while sane, loving parents have to jump through all kinds of hoops to prove they're qualified to foster or adopt children.
    Sad, and very true.

    Honestly, I've never had to deal with a case of child abuse of quite this magnitude. There are not many things in this world that cause me to doubt my control and self-restraint, but I honestly think that if I was the responding officer to a scene like this that had "just occurred", I would honestly contemplate losing my job. I have a huge spot for kids...I'm one of the few people my age I know that's actually excited to have them sometime soon. Is it wrong that I would have an urge to throw these motherfuckers against a wall until their skulls shattered?

    This type of story really depresses me about the kind of world we live in. If it isn't throwing your toddler against the wall, then you're pimping out your five year old, or microwaving your infant. Sometimes it's just downright hard not to hate people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 121Traffic View Post

    Is it wrong that I would have an urge to throw these motherfuckers against a wall until their skulls shattered?
    No. Just don't follow through on the urge. These assholes will probably get off with a couple years in jail and five years probation. You lose your temper and the courts would probably lock you up for 20 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 121Traffic View Post
    Sometimes it's just downright hard not to hate people.
    Yep.

    I didn't even finish the article. I'd get too pissed off. I fucking hate people.
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    I couldn't read it either. I spent 7 years working those kinds of cases. No wonder I'm nuts....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmur5074 View Post
    Yep.

    I didn't even finish the article. I'd get too pissed off. I fucking hate people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 121Traffic View Post
    There are not many things in this world that cause me to doubt my control and self-restraint, but I honestly think that if I was the responding officer to a scene like this that had "just occurred", I would honestly contemplate losing my job.
    As would I! I would pray that my self restraint would kick in. As good as it would feel to beat the living f out of those POS, I can't help any other kids if I'm sitting in a prison cell.
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    I just became ill reading this. People like them do not deserve the blessing of being parents, and they deserve what the court can dole out and more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morris View Post
    It's more personal to those of us with kids and expecially those of us with kids near or at that age.

    Don't forget, the general public and administrators expect you to "suck it up" and keep doing your job, even after dealing with things like this.

    Believe me you don't have to be a parent to have something like this make you sick.

    I couldn't finish the story either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack View Post
    Believe me you don't have to be a parent to have something like this make you sick.
    No, but morris is right.

    Seven years ago this would have made me sick, too.

    Now, it knocks me to my knees and fills me with a blind rage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countybear View Post
    Thus sums up a major problem with our system of (in)justice.
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