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    Japs Surrender

    INDIANAPOLIS, Feb. 18 (UPI) -- The director of a VA hospital in Indiana has offended some veterans by removing a framed newspaper with the headline "Japs Surrender."
    The framed front page of the Indianapolis Times had been hanging at the Roudebush Veterans Affairs Medical Center for more than 60 years. Director Tom Mattice said he decided to take it down after a new employee complained about the display of an ethnic slur from World War II, the Indianapolis Star reported Wednesday.
    Ronald "Bud" Albright, who commands a Marine Corps League chapter, has launched a campaign to get the newspaper back on the wall. He hopes veterans from around the country will write to complain.
    "We feel it's a slap in the face of the U.S. military," he said. "That newspaper is history, part of United States history."
    Mattice said he has asked the VA's national ethics office for guidance. He has also assigned a member of his staff to look for an alternate newspaper front page -- "Something like 'Victory in the Pacific' or 'Japanese Surrender.' "
    That would go up next to the newspaper from three months earlier that proclaims "GERMANY QUITS."
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    In the context given - a newspaper headline from history - this should not be offensive.

    Using it out of context could be.
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    Any government does what it can to vilify the enemy during war. Editorial cartoons were drawn all the time showing Japanese soldiers as buck toothed, ape like characters wearing glasses. Germans were portrayed as jackbooted thugs. (Much like they do the ATF today).

    During Vietnam, Vietnamese were known as "gooks" by everybody. Now it's offensive, then it wasn't.
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    I found the term Tora, Tora, Tora offensive , I found the Bataan Death March offensive and I find the need for the U.S.S. Arizona Memorial which is dedicated to the just under 2,000 sailors and Marines who went down with their ship offensive. If the Greatest Generation wants to remember their hard fought victory , I certainly think their entitled to do so. I 'm more than certain that if the Japanese or for that matter the Germans had won World War II they wouldn't give a f*@k what we find offensive. They would be pulling an Obama and simply tell us ," We won."
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    This politically correct crap is going to be the death of this country. How much more of this stuff are we going to see?
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    Not part of my vocabulary, but I thought "Jap" was closer to the "rude speech" end of the scale, not down with the heavy racial slurs?

    I say put the paper back up and fire the new guy (or gal) for being a whiny bitch (either way).

    Saw this a bit earlier. Now calling this -> a yellow star is offensive??

    Internet auction house eBay has temporarily renamed the yellow stars it uses to evaluate sellers on its French site after a complaint that the symbol had anti-semitic connotations.

    The move came after French eBay user Dominique Bellamy wrote to the company earlier this month to point out that during World War II the Nazis made Jews wear a yellow star on their clothes as a discriminatory mark.

    His wife Francoise Bellamy told AFP Thursday that her husband "refused to be be given a yellow star, even a virtual one.

    "It brought back bad memories of the occupation" of France by Germany during World War II, she said
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    What's next? I can't even imagine what people will find to be offended about tomorrow.

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    I found our government's Japanese internment camps far more offensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maclean View Post
    In the context given - a newspaper headline from history - this should not be offensive.

    Using it out of context could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
    I found our government's Japanese internment camps far more offensive.
    Well , I have to agree with you on that issue , Smoochy.
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    I'm with Mac. In the context in which it was displayed it's not offensive.
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    I agree with maclean as well.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Odd View Post
    Saw this a bit earlier. Now calling this -> a yellow star is offensive??

    Internet auction house eBay has temporarily renamed the yellow stars it uses to evaluate sellers on its French site after a complaint that the symbol had anti-semitic connotations.

    The move came after French eBay user Dominique Bellamy wrote to the company earlier this month to point out that during World War II the Nazis made Jews wear a yellow star on their clothes as a discriminatory mark.

    His wife Francoise Bellamy told AFP Thursday that her husband "refused to be be given a yellow star, even a virtual one.

    "It brought back bad memories of the occupation" of France by Germany during World War II, she said.

    What's next? I can't even imagine what people will find to be offended about tomorrow.
    Okay, this is absolutely retarded. What kind of star were Jews required to wear? The star of David. A SIX POINTED STAR!. THis dipshit french guy needs to be kicked in the nuts
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    Can someone take it as offensive? Sure. Is it wrong to put it on the wall? I don't think so. It's a historical look at the time where the U.S. was exiting form a war. The headline was about the enemy at the time. I've been to the Holocaust museum in DC, and they didn't take down any words or symbols that could be viewed as offensive. They are all over that place, and serve as a view into how things were back then and there. So yeah, this headline could be offensive, but in this case, it has a historical context. So while some would have issue with it, I don't have a problem with it being on the wall.
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    I think if you give me the power to offend you that YOU are the idiot. I prefer to exploit percieved weakness that people have about me. Barney Fifeing 101.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maclean View Post
    In the context given - a newspaper headline from history - this should not be offensive.

    Using it out of context could be.
    +1

    Newspapers from that time contain a lot of words that are offensive by today's standards. Back then "colored" was considered unoffensive, and that legacy means that even today it's part of the official title of the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) even though many members of the NAACP would be offended if you went up to them and called them "colored."

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    Quote Originally Posted by maclean View Post
    In the context given - a newspaper headline from history - this should not be offensive.

    Using it out of context could be.
    +1

    Come on, people! This is a historical document. The word "Jap" in this document was not offensive when it was written. It is a reference to citizens of a country involved in a significant moment in history and it should be preserved and displayed as such.

    It is NOT a "Nah nah nah nah nah, we kicked your ass!!!' type thing and it should not be taken as such by anyone.

    Are Polish people offended by the term "Pole"? I know the common term for Americans - "Yanks" used by some is not offensive to me. What about "Brits"? Any of you members across the big pond offended by that??

    I am SICK of PC. I should be able to speak my mind, without being intentionally rude to others, without worrying how an innocent term that I use might offend someone. Excuse the mini-rant but dang, I am tired of this.
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    When did the Jewish American Pincesses surrender???
    It's all in your prespective. As Law enforcement, we get called all kinds of things...Is anybody worried that WE might be offended.
    I've been to Japan and they still call us giging (not sure I spelled that right).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXPO710 View Post
    When did the Jewish American Pincesses surrender???
    It's all in your prespective. As Law enforcement, we get called all kinds of things...Is anybody worried that WE might be offended.
    I've been to Japan and they still call us giging (not sure I spelled that right).
    Gaijin.

    And yes, it isn't a compliment but not quite an insult. It means "outside person."
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    Gaijin, Gringo, Yank, Yankee , Cowboy, etc.......I could care less what anyone from another country calls me. With apologies to Mr. Sheakesphere, an American by any other name is still free.
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    Everyone please.... This is a serious topic that gos beyond an historical headline and stabs us all deep in the heart who are self righteous. Modern day PC is no joke.

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