Governor signs law endorsing Hoosiers' right to use deadly force

Indy · 03-23-06, 11:20 PM

Plus one for us!

The Associated Press
March 22, 2006 8:23 AM

INDIANAPOLIS -- Gov. Mitch Daniels signed into law legislation endorsing Indiana residents' right to use deadly force against intruders, a change that prevents courts from ruling that individuals should flee first before using a gun.

The legislation signed into law Tuesday states that Hoosiers do not have to retreat before using deadly force to prevent serious bodily injury to themselves or someone else.

Indiana did not previously require residents to retreat before using a gun or other deadly weapon. The new law, however, clarifies state law and prevents courts from determining that Hoosiers should run before using a gun.

"This bill would eliminate any duty to retreat that a court might decide is necessary," said Rep. Eric Koch, R-Bedford, the bill's author.

The law makes Indiana one of only three states, along with Florida and South Dakota, with a deadly force law. Fifteen other states are considering similar legislation, according to the National Rifle Association.

Critics maintain that such laws can encourage gun violence and The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence calls such legislation "shoot-first" bills.

"It's really a potentially dangerous solution to a nonexistent problem because there is not a scenario of legitimate self-defense anywhere in the country that doesn't get treated by juries, prosecutors and police as self-defense," said Peter Hamm, a campaign spokesman.

The NRA has lobbied across the nation for what it calls "Stand Your Ground" bills.

"Law-abiding citizens should not be forced to retreat when they're being attacked by criminals whether it's inside their home or outside their home," said Chris W. Cox, NRA chief lobbyist.

Jane Jankowski, the governor's press secretary, said he supports residents' right to use deadly force in a life-threatening situation.

"The governor said that this makes the law clear that men and women are entitled to defend themselves, their property and loved ones in extreme situations," she said.

Source: http://www2.indystar.com/articles/7/...-1037-127.html

**lcsodre108** · 03-24-06, 02:10 AM

So the next time I am in Indiana and some old guy threatens me with his cane I will be justified in capping his ass right? I was scared, honest.

Cheech · 03-24-06, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by lcsodre108

So the next time I am in Indiana and some old guy threatens me with his cane I will be justified in capping his ass right? I was scared, honest.

HAve something against old people!? howd ya pass your psych test!?

**cntryboy0531** · 03-24-06, 08:03 AM

You know, when I read this title, I thought it said "Govenor signs law endorsing Hooter's right to use deadly force."

I was thinking, "HOLY SHIT, that's the last time I go to that place.."

**MisterK** · 03-24-06, 08:05 AM

HAve something against old people!? howd ya pass your psych test!?

**Magnum440** · 03-24-06, 08:50 AM

The anti-gunners yelled and screamed there would be a blood bath when states started passing CCW laws. Proven wrong. Now they are yelling deadly force laws, which seem to be on the increase, will start a blood bath. Think they would get hoarse after awhile.....and shut up. But, this kind of crappy yelling gets them in front of a camera held by liberal media who pushes it.

**Prometheus** · 03-24-06, 04:34 PM

Damn! Guess I won't be lurking in the bushes outside Indy's house anymore. Gotta find something else to do on Friday nights....

Bearcat06 · 03-24-06, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Prometheus

Damn! Guess I won't be lurking in the bushes outside Indy's house anymore.

I would be more worried about her dogs........

**TXCharlie** · 03-24-06, 05:21 PM

Now if we can just get something like that passed in Fu

ing Washington, DC, so they won't have to register their pepper spray any more, and Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison can bring her S&W .357 Magnum back to the Fu

ing place after the Capital Police made her disassemble it and mail it back to Texas (she had it in her bedroom night stand).

**Ducky** · 03-24-06, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by TXCharlie

Now if we can just get something like that passed in Fu

ing Washington, DC, so they won't have to register their pepper spray any more, and Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison can bring her S&W .357 Magnum back to the Fu

ing place after the Capital Police made her disassemble it and mail it back to Texas (she had it in her bedroom night stand).

You feel strongly about this, then.

**TXCharlie** · 03-24-06, 09:49 PM

How'd you guess?

Indy · 03-24-06, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Bearcat06

I would be more worried about her dogs........

LOL my dogs would warn me you were there and then I'd off you in whatever method I could....

I'm so glad the only other state I'm interested in going to (Florida) has this law in place as well.

**Prometheus** · 03-27-06, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Indy

I'm so glad the only other state I'm interested in going to (Florida) has this law in place as well.

We passed the law just for you, Baby.

Indy · 03-27-06, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Prometheus

We passed the law just for you, Baby.

Are you trying to bribe me?

**StanSwitek** · 03-27-06, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Prometheus

Damn! Guess I won't be lurking in the bushes outside Indy's house anymore. Gotta find something else to do on Friday nights....

That should relieve the problem with the nose prints on her bathroom window.

**Prometheus** · 03-27-06, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Indy

Are you trying to bribe me?

Is it working?

Indy · 03-27-06, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Prometheus

Is it working?

Sure....

...as I call the local PD and tell them about you peaking in my windows in an effort to scare me south....

**Welpe** · 03-31-06, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by cntryboy0531

You know, when I read this title, I thought it said "Govenor signs law endorsing Hooter's right to use deadly force."

I was thinking, "HOLY SHIT, that's the last time I go to that place.."

Funny, that's exactly how I read it too.

**213th** · 03-31-06, 09:30 AM

My dad was telling me that a similiar law was enacted back home in NH.

**Retdetsgt** · 03-31-06, 11:29 AM

If it's like Oregon, it won't make much difference at all in anything. When we passed it in the mid 80's, the pro gun people were toting about what a difference armed citizens would make and gun control people whined about a blood bath. Neither happened. We had a rare occasion of some CCW person doing something good, but about an equal number getting arrested for doing something stupid.

The things we did see was a rush to get CCW permits and then a rash of guns stolen from cars when people found that packing could be a pain on a hot day. The thefts only last about a year or so and they tapered off. All in all, no hits, no runs, no errors.